I think one of the issues with the LoCo's is that they don't get much guidance from the top down. If I'm not mistaken, they were originally just 'let loose' thinking 'any activity is good activity, whatever it may be or whatever form it may take'. I'm sure that was valid for starters, but looking at our LoCo, we're actually more like a bunch of headless chickens without leadership, guidance or direction.
For example, we have 3 people trying to work a bit on promoting ubuntu in the education sector. Unfortunately we have no idea or experience with this subject, and no-one can give us guidance. We have to discover it all on our own. Since we're all just volunteers just spending a bit of spare time, our project isn't going anywhere. A bit of guidance would be helpful. We have no idea how to tackle it, nor if it is a priority for Canonical. Nothing or no-one that tells us if we're on the right track... So I think some guidance from the top down is needed. What does Canonical/Ubuntu expect from it's LoCo's and how can they guide us at implementing it. A bit of support could be great too. We're sitting with an old site that none of us can maintain. It was written in Drupal, and the guy that made it left the country. They guy that thought about doing something with the web site, cannot work with Drupal, and the guy that can work with Drupal, has no time. So we're stuck. Yet a good working web site is vital if you want to promote Ubuntu properly. A bit of support could go a long way there. I'm sure Canonical has plenty of people that can push us in the right direction, share some code, etc... Regards, Jan. Ubuntu Belgium. On 31 August 2013 17:03, Michael Hall <mhall...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > For tablecloths, lanyards and other materials you can apply for funding > from the community donations: > http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/20/ubuntu-donations-and-community-funding/ > > > Michael Hall > mhall...@ubuntu.com > > On 08/31/2013 06:53 AM, YoBoY wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm not perhaps the right person to talk about locoteams here because > > everyone thinks my team is not like the others (French team). But we are > > a normal locoteam, we are the team for all the French users. > > > > You are right, lot of people from my team are demotivated. Why? > > > > Canonical/Ubuntu is focused on Ubuntu Phone this year, we can't promote > > that, it's not for the average users. And how can we talk about > > something we can't even try. It's not like we have all a spare phone or > > tablet to play with it. > > > > Canonical added Amazon last year, we can't promote that, and we have a > > hard time to try to explain why you have done that. You can't imagine > > how many motivated members we have lost with that. > > > > Canonical/Ubuntu wants new developers and contributors for the project, > > we can't help you on that too. Actual French developers and contributors > > don't participate on our locoteam, don't register to our mailing lists. > > To have some of them (thanks to the past real UDS for letting me meet > > them) on our events I always have to ping them, mail them, call them, > > and it's time consuming and very frustrating. > > > > Now, we don't have enough people to lead, to organise events, to make > > things work. New members want to participate but don't want > > responsibilities. > > > > > > ## Re-energizing > > You want to re-energize LoCo teams. Thank you for that, we clearly need > > help and new motivated members. > > > > You can start by a call to all the actual developers and contributors to > > join the locoteam near them, on internet or in real life, and to help > > them organize some events (virtual or real) like the next global jam, > > localised open weeks,…. > > > > You can also give us some food, some premium news, some press release. > > When ubuntu announce something we are on the front line for the foreign > > media, and we don't have clear answers to give them. > > > > You can fix the amazon-gate to regain the confidence of lot of people > > (and mine). I don't expect you to remove it, but a proposition is to > > just add a clear notification (translatable) for a new user to force him > > to read and accept the online searches. > > > > You can help us with material too. I don't ask to give us this material. > > But for example, the great tablecloth, why can't we buy more of it. Or > > the lanyards, why can't we buy some at a better rate than the canonical > > shop. Same thing for the stickers. Having to make our own material is > > time consuming, is not always with the best price for the quantity > > needed, and we surely can do better on that. > > > > You can showcase more all the great work done by the locoteams on the > > *.ubuntu.com domains and not only the events who already are on the loco > > portal. For example, the foreign resources offered by the locoteams who > > have to take in charge the support in their language, why these > > resources are not presented to a visitor coming to help.ubuntu.com or to > > community.ubuntu.com on a side box for example. These resources for my > > team represent the biggest part of our work, and they are so hard to > > find on the ubuntu.com domains. > > > > > > I stop here with my non-constructive email, and I hope I have not hurt > > someone’s feelings with my criticism. I'm sorry if I have. > > > > > > Best regards. > > > > Philippe > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accommodate a newer version of your current system.
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