On Sep 4, 2013 2:37 AM, "Bhavani Shankar R" <bh...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Benjamin Kerensa <bkere...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > Hi > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Bhavani Shankar R <bh...@ubuntu.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Benjamin Kerensa <bkere...@ubuntu.com> > >> wrote: > >> > I think what has been lacking in the LoCo Council is thinking outside > >> > the > >> > box and I think the upcoming elections offer a great opportunity to > >> > bring in > >> > some change makers. The question is who will step up to do this? > >> > > >> > >> /me puts the loco council hat on over here for a while... > >> > >> Hello Benjamin, > >> > >> Could you please let us know what do you mean by out of the box > >> thinking here and provide us an example so that we can improve? > > > > > > > > I highlighted some of the improvements I think could be made last year when > > I reached out to all unapproved LoCo's in North America > > (http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/08/06/the-state-of-the-loco) > > > > Improve Mentoring of LoCo’s > > Better Engagement with Unapproved LoCo’s > > Follow Up’s and Health Check’s of LoCo’s that are Declined Approval > > > > > > Thanks for the link and the feedback there, we will definitely work > towards them in the coming future :) > > > I used to idle on #ubuntu-locoteams pretty frequently and to be honest there > > has been a lack of responsiveness there by current and past LoCo Council's. > > It seemed nearly every other day someone would come in and ask for > > information about LoCo's or starting one or a problem they are having and > > the LoCo Council was unavailable to those people. > > > > We do work in different timezones and at any point of time we try to > be there on the IRC (atleast one of us) and try to answer queries, > (Its inevitable that we also get busy during sometimes and we would > not be able to answer at some point) but on the flip side, there are > people who reach out to us via mails and we do help them out if not on > the IRC. > > > I have always thought that the process for approval (or whatever term is > > being used today) was subjective versus well defined. There have been LoCo's > > that have had amazing levels of activity and put together great apps in the > > past that have been declined while frankly poor applications and lack of > > activity has seen some LoCo's approved. > > > > Ultimately I think the LoCo Council to a degree has done its role well when > > it comes to governing or approving LoCo's but there have been some issues as > > mentioned above. > > So as an effect, we have relaxed the process and now going on a case > by case basis per se, of evaluating based on activity done and results > are to be seen. > > > > > Ideally I think it would be great to see the LoCo Council redefine its role > > and how it interacts with LoCo's. > > ATM, I am thinking like a catch up with LC every fortnight with > various locos on G+ or something similar but the number of teams we > cater too is big enough so any ideas are welcome :) > > > > Also, how can LoCo's be expected to product team reports if the Council > > itself struggles to do so? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Minutes > > > > We meet over G+ or informally these days mostly due to the timezones > we are in, but will make a honest effort to update the minutes there > too. > > > I would encourage potential new council candidates and those who are > > remaining to please take a look at other open source communities that have > > programs similar to the Ubuntu LoCo Team's and see where they have been > > successful. Fedora Ambassadors, Mozilla Reps and other programs come to > > mind. > > Yes, Ubuntu already has it I guess, and Ubuntu Membership is on > parallels to a fedora ambassador or Mozilla reps I believe. Please > correct me if I'm wrong.
No both are the closest equivalent to LoCo's but where more leadership occurs at the individual level who leads team or local communities. > > > > > Jono had a ambitious idea of having an approved loco in every U.S. state by > > the end of 2007. Today their are less approved loco's then there have been > > in 2012 and 2011. > > > > As said above, the new verification process have to be time tested I > guess and will aid the process on part of loco teams for getting > themselves verified. > > > Something is not working well and their is room for solutions because what > > may have worked in the past is not working today. > > > > > > So to re-iterate what Pablo said, we welcome criticisms, lets work > together to make ubuntu better :) > > Regards, > > > -- > Bhavani Shankar > Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com > https://launchpad.net/~bhavi > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
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