On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> shimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Or did you just use users dial-up/DSL/cable IP ranges in your test,
> > which SHOULD be blacklisted (why would a home user need to emit SMTP
> > traffic on his own instead of his ISP SMTP servers, where proper
> > authentication and thus logging and auditing can be taken care of?
>
> I am sorry? Why shouldn't I be able to use my own SMTP server and
> instead be forced to rely on someone else's that might or might not
> work better than mine, be blacklisted, or whatever? Why should I
> *need* my own SMTP server? Sorry, but it's none of anyone's
> business. Avoiding the ISP's "logging and auditing" can be reason
> enough.



If _every_ spammer on earth (including "what do you wanr from us? we have an
opt-out option!") would be sent to jail for a couple of years, I would
totally agree with you.

However, my filters block between _hundreds_ to _thousands_ of spam messages
_per day_, most of them coming from... those addresses. So it makes some
sense to have a list of them...

In a perfect world, I would agree with you completely; It is a hassle to use
a smarthost indeed. But until there would be some way of non-centralized
origin-authenticated SMTP with a web-of-trust domain list (so people will
not just register new domains to evade blacklisting) that you could
configure a "positive-trust-threshold" you agree to receive mail from  - I
think that having an RBL that lists spamming netblocks is a Good To Have
thing. It is the receiver who shall decide if s/he wishes to receive traffic
from people listed there... better than blocking port 25 alltogether...

Do you have any better solution? :)

-- Shimi

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