Noam, They are blocking the *WHOLE* AS, not IP ranges. They blocked the whole AS number I'm using because 0.596 % of the ips in that AS sent "spam". Do you think that is that reasonable. I've just googled for that RBL, and found out a lot of ranting (including a recent thread in NANOG). Apparently, they are demanding money if you want your AS to be removed...
Anyway, one RBL doesn't equal to "The whole country is blocked!". If you have any specific problem, why don't you try your [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Noam Rathaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:35 PM To: Imri Zvik Cc: linux-il Subject: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting Sorry but I don't understand why you guys think I checked dynamic ranges? I checked hosting ranges, and these SHOULD BE CLEAN, no one in the hosting farm should be sending out SPAM, it is against the policy of the hosting company, it is clearly written in the agreement you sign when you come in into their farm. Same thing for illegal content, piracy, etc. On Thursday 24 July 2008 14:24:02 Imri Zvik wrote: > I'm sorry, but checking hosting/dynamic ranges is just misleading. It is > impossible to clean these ranges, and even though the ISPs try. > > I don't know this specific RBL, but I don't think it's a widely used one > - Anyway, they "punish" whole AS numbers which seems quite harsh. > If you would _actually_ read what they are suggesting, you would have > seen that it is impossible to implement in Israel (Can you imagine what > will happen if the ISP's will just block port 25 and *force* you to use > their own mail servers? I can just see the angry postbacks in ynet..). > > What you should be checking is the ranges that the ISP mail system uses; > If you will take Smile 012 for example, and check it's reputation in > senderbase.org, you will see that most of the servers are listed as > "GOOD", and some as "Neutral": > http://www.senderbase.org/senderbase_queries/detailip?search_string=84.9 > 5.2.0%2F24 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noam Rathaus > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:58 PM > To: linux-il > Subject: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting > > Hi, > > Has anyone here tried to get the Bezeq Internation, Barak or Netvision > to get > them off the blacklisting found here: > http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php > > Apparently all the Israeli ISP are blacklisted here (any host you put > there in > their hosting range) - and all because they don't have a policy of > cleaning > up their network from spammers. > > This means we are all losing emails we send because our ISPs are doing a > bad > job. -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
