On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> It may be possible to do it with Exim mailer daemon (preventing
> anyone except Majordomo to send to the -out address). But I
> haven't tried it.
if it works anything like Qmail, it's pretty easy, but I prefer a mailer
that doesn't need it at all...
> > That's quite a disappointment in Majordomo's case, which while being (one
> > of) the most popular list managing software out there, offers ZERO
> > security to anyone intelligent enough to search through mailing list
> > headers to find the outgoing mail alias.
>
> Agreed. Both Majordomo and Sendmail are guilty in this case.
no, sendmail is acting ok in this one case. Majordomo is totally amature
in using the mailer to do the alias expanding. what's worse is if you
don't disable EXPN and any kid can find out who is on the linux-il-out
list, not to mention spammers.
> Listar doesn't have any -out aliases. When it wants to mail
> something to the list, it just connects to the local mailer
> daemon via SMTP (as opposed to Majordomo, which just runs
> /usr/sbin/sendmail) and passes the recepient addresses to it by
> many RCPT TO lines.
multiple RCPT lines? LAME. a mailer like Exim can help an MLM use VERP
for better bounce auto treatment. I have yet to see why Listar is better
than EZmlm-Qmail combo.
Exim seems to have a serious problem, btw. it advertises its version in
the headers of the messages sent. I thought only Sendmail was naiive
enough to do that.
an anecdote:
Just came back from an SVLUG meeting. they always have some goodies
given away to randomly picked names from the registration book
(everybody who come in writes their name, for headcount). Every name
called, the guy steps up and picks some printed shirt, hat O'Reiley book
or whatever is offered, this month, out of 10 books and 15 more other
items, the last item not taken and left for the last winner raffled was
the Sendmail bat book :-)
the geeks have spoken. Sendmail sucks.
--
Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast
-- "Of course Unix is a user friendly OS,
it is just very picky about its friends..."
