Dressing in drag is not "child abuse" — and certainly not when attendance at such a show is by voluntary and paid admission. Why do you feel threatened by people dressing the way they want in a performance venue for entertainment — or in public, for that matter? How do you feel about "Some Like It Hot <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Like_It_Hot>"?
Alice Waugh On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 10:01 AM V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, I don’t support child abuse. > Vic > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 9:42 AM Jennifer Saffran < > jennifer.saff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Drag queens are not perverts. >> >> Five years olds are creative, openminded, expressive little people. >> >> All choices of dress are costumes with signifiers, etc. One could say >> that a Lincolnite in a pair of LLBean jeans, Merrill mocs, and a Patagonia >> jacket is doing “drag” of a different sort. That same costume that is >> accepted here is mocked in other places. Drag queens just happen to express >> certain cliches about femininity in an exaggerated way. >> >> >> On Nov 30, 2024, at 9:36 AM, V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "Honestly, I am shocked Bemis Hall would host an event where the >> description has such strong inflammatory language, which could be construed >> as an attack on a specific population, of which we have citizens living in >> Lincoln" >> >> This is the same Bemis Hall that believes it's OK to host and subject >> your FIVE year old to 'drag show' event perverts. >> Gee, wonder 'why' children might be 'confused'........ >> >> Vic >> >> On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:32 PM Rosa Elena <rvillalobos3...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The description of the event (in the pdf attached to the original email >>> and copied below for context) is pretty one-sided and *not* conducive >>> to “thoughtful discussion” with multiple perspectives. Honestly, I am >>> shocked Bemis Hall would host an event where the description has such >>> strong inflammatory language, which could be construed as an attack on a >>> specific population, of which we have citizens living in Lincoln. >>> >>> From the event description: >>> >>> “The Gaza genocide that began over a year ago has morphed into Israel’s >>> three-front strategy to expand its borders and replace non-Jews living in >>> Gaza, Lebanon, and the West Bank with an army, citizens militia, and Jewish >>> settlements. Based on past, aggressively pro-Zionist policies, an incoming >>> Trump administration appears ready to confirm Israel as a Jewish >>> supremacist/apartheid state, and to further subjugate or eliminate non-Jews >>> living in a Greater Israel. In calling for an end to Israeli apartheid and >>> for a shared homeland for all, we join the struggle against the rise of >>> authoritarianism in Europe, the Global South, and the United States. >>> Zionism today, as ideology, theology and political project, has emerged as >>> an expression of neocolonialism, Christian nationalism, and fascism.” >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 12:33 PM Annamaria San Antonio < >>> into...@jaikaurhealingarts.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed. Thank you, Sara !!! >>>> I did not see this at all as propaganda and very much appreciated >>>> hearing about an event with thoughtful discussion. Dangerous ? Perhaps I >>>> did not read through but I did not see "false claims of genocide and >>>> apartheid". >>>> >>>> Peace >>>> ~Jai . >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 4:38 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would urge all to listen/attend before passing judgement. >>>>> We have few opportunities to hear rom and question directly such >>>>> individuals with direct experience. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps those objecting are familiar with the speakers and would like >>>>> to share their experiences so that others might know what to expect? >>>>> >>>>> Let’s keep an open mind and allow others to judge for themselves. >>>>> >>>>> Namaste, >>>>> Sara >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 27, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jonathan Sheffi <jshe...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Amen, Forest. Ideological diversity is well and good, but let's please >>>>> keep LT apolitical and free from this sort of low-grade propaganda. >>>>> ᐧ >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:47 AM Forest Brown <forestbrow...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I appreciate your wanting dialogue on this issue, but advertising >>>>>> speakers who are sharing false claims of genocide and apartheid is >>>>>> dangerous and this isn’t the platform for that. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 27, 2024, at 9:07 AM, Stephen R. Low < >>>>>> steve....@gordianconcepts.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Steve Low >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Stephen R. Low <steve....@gordianconcepts.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* November 27, 2024 9:07 AM >>>>>> *Subject:* Exploring the Holy Land Problem: Friday, Dec 6 and >>>>>> Saturday, Dec 7 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Palestinians, Israeli Jews, and those of us who care about them have >>>>>> never faced challenges greater than today’s.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Contributing to this mess has been the Biden administration’s Holy >>>>>> Land policies, which have been—shall I be polite and say, “awkward?”* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Now, we await a Trump administration, whose 2016–2020 Israel >>>>>> policies were so ill-considered and unbalanced, that many believe they >>>>>> helped to incite Hamas’s murderous attack on October 7, 2023.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *These “realities” pose major challenges for all of us seeking peace, >>>>>> equality, and justice in the Holy Land.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Rather than wring our hands in despair, the GRALTA Foundation has >>>>>> organized two events to help us shape constructive, outside-the-box >>>>>> thinking about how to refine the American people’s understanding of the >>>>>> Holy Land Problem and how to advocate for new U.S. Mideast policies that >>>>>> will improve conditions and achieve security for all who live there.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Here are two (free) opportunities to hear two internationally-known >>>>>> speakers—two experts on the Holy Land’s human rights problem—who can help >>>>>> us to answer the question, “Where can we go from here?* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Friday, Dec. 6 @ 7:30 PMCommunity Church of Boston565 Boylston St., >>>>>> Boston >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/565+Boylston+St.,+Boston?entry=gmail&source=g>* >>>>>> >>>>>> *accessible via* >>>>>> * the T, between Dartmouth & Clarendon ordiscount vouchers available >>>>>> for Back Bay Parking Garage, 199 Clarendon Street >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/199+Clarendon+Street?entry=gmail&source=g>.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Saturday, Dec. 7 @ 2:00 PM* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Bemis Hall 15 Bedford Rd., Lincoln, MA >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/15+Bedford+Rd.,+Lincoln,+MA?entry=gmail&source=g>* >>>>>> >>>>>> *park across the street at the “Stone Church”* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Please join us for one of these events.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Our speakers:* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <image002.jpg> >>>>>> *Mazin Qumsiyeh **Human Rights Activist, Professor**, Bethlehem & >>>>>> Birzeit Universities* >>>>>> >>>>>> Prof. Qumsiyeh was born and raised in Beit Sahour on the outskirts of >>>>>> Bethlehem. His evolving world views have been shaped by living under >>>>>> Israeli occupation, the education he received at universities in the >>>>>> Middle >>>>>> East and the U.S., and on years of extensive travel throughout the world. >>>>>> After obtaining a doctorate in Zoology and Genetics from Texas Tech, >>>>>> Mazin >>>>>> trained at the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital and taught at the >>>>>> University of Tennessee, Duke, and then at Yale. He is author of 190 >>>>>> scientific papers, hundreds of articles, and several books on topics >>>>>> ranging from cultural heritage to human rights to biodiversity >>>>>> conservation >>>>>> to cancer. >>>>>> >>>>>> After returning to Palestine in 2008, Mazin and his wife Jessie Chang >>>>>> founded and run (as volunteers) the Palestine Institute for Biodiversity >>>>>> & >>>>>> Sustainability and the Palestine Museum of Natural History—both situated >>>>>> on >>>>>> the Bethlehem University campus. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <image004.jpg> >>>>>> *Mark Braverman **Executive Director, **Kairos, USA* >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Mark Braverman is a retired clinical psychologist and trauma >>>>>> consultant. Raised in a traditional Jewish family, he was steeped in >>>>>> Jewish >>>>>> religious observance, Bible study, the Hebrew language, and the Zionist >>>>>> narrative. Confronted by the reality of ethnic cleansing and ongoing >>>>>> colonial settlement of Palestine, Mark has devoted himself since 2006 to >>>>>> working for a future of dignity and peace for all the people living >>>>>> between >>>>>> the River and the Sea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark has been closely involved in the international church movement >>>>>> for Palestinian rights. He spoke at the launch of the Kairos Palestine >>>>>> document in Bethlehem in 2009 and served on the Palestine Ecumenical >>>>>> Forum >>>>>> of the World Council of Churches. He is the author of two books and >>>>>> numerous journal articles and book chapters on the Kairos movement, >>>>>> ecumenism, post-holocaust theology, Jewish and Christian Zionism, and >>>>>> Christian-Jewish relations. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Steve Low >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <002 v-1 Qumsiyeh-Braverman Poster.pdf> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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