I find all discussions pertaining to bicycles very interesting because the technology of the "bicycle" is changing so fast. e-Bikes are going to force a review of many laws. They can move so fast in silence that running a stop sign or traveling on a trail is very different when you can do it at 20-30 mph in silence. A 50cc scooter would not have the same rights but can barely do the same speed with noise.
This issue isn;t just e-bike. stand-up e-scooters, e-skateboards, one wheel, etc are all getting faster. On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 8:04 PM Peter Speert <pspe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, John, for your response and link, explaining the reason for > bikes not to stop at stop signs if there is no other traffic approaching > the intersection. The Weston Road/ Silver Hill intersection is a good > example of one where there is a clear view of all approaching vehicles. If > none are visible, there would seem to be no safety reason for the cyclist > to come to a full stop. > > Peter Speert > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 18, 2022, at 7:42 PM, John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The whole "cyclists never stop at stop signs is a big red herring" and is > just a lazy response to the much bigger (literally bigger, as many of the > new EV's, not to mention the best selling vehicle in the US, the Ford F150, > have and will continue to result in even greater increases in weight and > speed, the two biggest factors in crash severity and morbidity outcomes) > issues we all face as road users. > > There is also a lot of data as to why cyclists should NOT have to stop at > stop signs. > > https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/04/idaho-stop-colorado-yield/ > > And yes, my post was snarky. If there is sun in your eyes and you can't > see what is in front of you when you are driving, the thing to do is to > pull over until the conditions permit you to resume driving again. It is > that simple. > > John > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:05 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Amen! >> I am regularly traveling along Weston Rd. and have NEVER seen a cyclist >> stop at the STOP signs at the intersection of Silver Hill and Weston…or, at >> Conant Rd., for that matter. >> They fly through the corners! >> This is extremely dangerous. >> >> I am NOT speeding or checking my phone (that comment was so snarky) and >> feel that both I and the cyclists are in danger. >> We ALL need to be safe and we ALL must be responsible. >> >> Sara >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Carol Bickford via Lincoln < >> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: >> >> All good reminders! Car drivers and cyclist, please obey STOP signs >> especially on corners where leaves will soon be piling up and are slick >> when wet. That is a recipe for disaster. >> Thank you, >> Carol >> >> >> On Sep 18, 2022, at 1:54 PM, John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Oh and I forgot one thing. It is generally a good idea to drive sober. >> As a cyclist, the number of times I am passed by a car with the smell of >> marijuana emanating from the vehicle along with bottles of empty Fireball >> strewn along our roadways is just a bit unnerving. >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 1:50 PM John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes and drivers, please consider driving the speed limit and getting off >>> your phone this time of year. It is especially dangerous to have sun in >>> your eyes while speeding and checking Instagram! >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 1:47 PM V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Very good points and we bicyclists runners and car owners ask that >>>> those with cars routinely clean the interior and exterior of their >>>> windshields- >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 1:26 PM <c...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Lincoln Bike Riders and Walkers - Please be aware that this time >>>>> of year (and in the Spring) as the sun becomes lower in the horizon, those >>>>> of us who drive cars must become especially careful. Why? Because the >>>>> sun >>>>> and its reflections blind us as to what is ahead and along side on the >>>>> road. >>>>> >>>>> Please wear reflective clothing and put reflective devices on your >>>>> bikes. 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