On Mon 21 Apr 2025 at 18:50:27 (+0200), Mats-Olof Liljegren wrote: > > 21 apr. 2025 kl. 18:17 skrev Wol <antli...@youngman.org.uk>: > > On 21/04/2025 15:27, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > >> They just superficially skims over the topic, the real problem is that > >> poeple mixes the languages, there will always be confusion and > >> misunderstanding when people takes words and ideoms from other cultures > >> and languages and applies it in a different context. > > > Hi, this question goes far back in history, as several people in > this thread have pointed out. > > As someone who is well-educated with a Master of Fine Arts in > music, trained choir conductor, and with studies in music > psychology (among other things), I’m well aware of the historical facts. > > My background is A, H, C… but in my daily work I mostly use > A, B, C…, which is becoming increasingly common in Sweden. > > The purpose of my question was not to start a discussion > about whether this is good or bad, but rather how to solve it > programmatically in Lilypond in the best way—without interfering > with future updates. > > I’ve currently solved it by modifying the define-note-names.scm > file, which controls the language settings. It works perfectly, > but I’ve hacked one of Lilypond’s internal files—which is not > a good path. > > What I want to do is create an override or an extension that > changes only the parts I need to modify, while keeping the rest > intact. I assume this is possible, but I haven’t understood how.
AFAICT, that's now been posted here by Lukas-Fabian and Karl, and should work in the short term. But looking at the languages LP supports (NR § Note names in other languages, ~p8), adding a language is cheap, even when notes have more than one name (so long as they don't overlap). So for the long term, I would file a wishlist bug (LP calls them issues, I believe) with a definitive list of notes and modifiers and, of course, the language's name. Obviously, I think the name should be chosen by the people who would use it. There are several names for mixtures of English and Swedish, but why should the word "english" be involved. Once LP supports the language, I assume that Frescobaldi's ly program will eventually support translating it in both directions, which I would consider important. > That’s what I want to solve—not to discuss why. Yes, the why is obvious: a group of people who use those names. Cheers, David.
