So here I am (as I see it) : My current version of Lilypond is not going to work on my Mac if I upgrade to Catalina (v10.15) because of an incomprehensible licence impasse between GNU and Apple. Hans Åberg has provided an installable package ( https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg <https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg> ) which runs as 64-bit on Catalina. It appears that it has problems with convert-ly but is otherwise OK. (And Frescobaldi users need to point Frescobaldi preferences towards the right version of Lilypond.) I have downloaded Hans’s file and tried to install it. Unfortunately the installer blocked the process, requiring that the OS be 10.15 Catalina - I have to go for Catalina before I can test for problems with it. So, to continue using Lilypond, either I have to stay forever on v2.18.2 and have my computer stay forever on OS 10.14, or just go for Catalina, run Hans’s installer, and accept what disasters then ensue. (Hans seems a pretty good guy, so with luck there won’t be many!) Geronimo!
> On 14 Nov 2019, at 17:00, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > > Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Tim McNamara) > 2. Re: Macro with (David Kastrup) > 3. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Hans Åberg) > 4. Re: Re: Macro with pitches as parameters (Mats Bengtsson) > 5. drawing a range reguardless of transposition (Sandro Santilli) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 07:59:26 -0600 > From: Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> > To: lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina > Message-ID: <7adb0dd2-f14d-4af2-8f84-8c81c0e58...@bitstream.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Frescobaldi itself does not generate sheet music. You need to install > Lilypond also. In my experience with Catalina, Hans Aberg's .mkpg installs > with a double click and works fine(except for convert-ly, apparently). > > Frescobaldi 3 does not work out of the box on the Mac; there are a half a > dozen dependencies that have to be installed first. The 64-bit version of > 2.20 does work well. I haven't gotten around to getting F3 running as > obtaining and installing the dependencies on the Mac is kind of a nuisance > due to how locked down MacOS is, unless one is using a package manager such > as Homebrew, MacPorts, etc. I am not using one of those. > > >> On Nov 14, 2019, at 3:20 AM, Jeremiah Reilly <jeremiah.p.rei...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Carl, thanks for both tips. >> >> The Frescobaldi Downloads page states "Install a copy of Lilypond as well." >> Not sure how that jives with Catalina. >> >> Sorry to be inept re packages and making from source. I am a musician, not a >> developer. >> >> Your help much appreciated. >> >>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Jeremiah Reilly <jeremiah.p.rei...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 3:14 AM >>> To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org> >>> Subject: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina >>> >>> What is the status of running Lilypond under Mac os 10.15 Catalina? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> (Apologies if the answer is clearly posted on the website or Lilypond blog. >>> I searched 20+ minutes without success. I cannot upgrade to Catalina until >>> I know whether Lilypond will run. I found posting for folks running >>> Lilypond in a virtual machine or Decker, but that's not my bag.) >>> >>> Search for 64-bit, and you’d find it. But putting a response on a thread >>> with Catalina in a title is probably a good idea. >>> >>> You can get an installable LilyPond package created by Hans Aberg here: >>> >>> https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg >>> >>> There is a 64-bit Frescobaldi installer for Version 2.20: >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/download/v2.20.0/Frescobaldi-2.20.0-x86_64.dmg >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20191114/24a5bbf6/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:15:00 +0100 > From: David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> > To: David Menéndez Hurtado <davidmen...@gmail.com> > Cc: Aaron Hill <lilyp...@hillvisions.com>, lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Macro with > Message-ID: <8736eqee8r....@fencepost.gnu.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > David Menéndez Hurtado <davidmen...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:47, Aaron Hill <lilyp...@hillvisions.com> wrote: >> >>> Secondly, there's a quirk in variable substitution syntax. You need to >>> use the $var form, so the parser will see the ly:pitch? and ly:duration? >>> tokens as indicating a single note. >>> >> >> Ah, right. I understand now the manual means with "normal LilyPond input, >> using $ (in places where only Lilypond constructs are allowed) or # (to use >> it as a Scheme value or music function argument or music inside of music >> lists) to reference arguments (eg. ‘#arg1’)." So, every time the input type >> is ly:something, it should be with $, right? > > Music is ly:music? . # passes the content verbatim and requires a > particular type to work since it is evaluated _after_ being fitted into > the syntax parsing. $ creates a copy of some types (such as music) and > can be treated differently in syntax according to its type but since > some syntax constructs require lookahead (and that in turn requires > knowing the type of the token), the evaluation can happen surprisingly > early. > > In general, # works with fewer surprises unless it doesn't work at all. > >> Thank you so much, now my source is almost readable, and so much >> quicker! > > -- > David Kastrup > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:15:49 +0100 > From: Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com> > To: Jeremiah Reilly <jeremiah.p.rei...@gmail.com> > Cc: Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu>, "lilypond-user@gnu.org" > <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina > Message-ID: <795c7408-92af-4458-823f-1c4fc538d...@telia.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > After running the LilyPond installer listed at the bottom this page, open the > Frescobali app and in Preferences > LilyPond Preferences > “LilyPond versions > to use”, set as Default the path > /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond > > >> On 14 Nov 2019, at 10:19, Jeremiah Reilly <jeremiah.p.rei...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Carl, thanks for both tips. >> >> The Frescobaldi Downloads page states "Install a copy of Lilypond as well." >> Not sure how that jives with Catalina. >> >> Sorry to be inept re packages and making from source. I am a musician, not a >> developer. >> >> Your help much appreciated. >> >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> wrote: >> >> >> From: Jeremiah Reilly <jeremiah.p.rei...@gmail.com> >> Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 3:14 AM >> To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org> >> Subject: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina >> >> What is the status of running Lilypond under Mac os 10.15 Catalina? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> (Apologies if the answer is clearly posted on the website or Lilypond blog. >> I searched 20+ minutes without success. I cannot upgrade to Catalina until I >> know whether Lilypond will run. I found posting for folks running Lilypond >> in a virtual machine or Decker, but that's not my bag.) >> >> Search for 64-bit, and you’d find it. But putting a response on a thread >> with Catalina in a title is probably a good idea. >> >> You can get an installable LilyPond package created by Hans Aberg here: >> >> https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:42:50 +0100 > From: Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Re: Macro with pitches as parameters > Message-ID: <bebb34a7-1d2b-ee2c-3703-363c7977f...@ee.kth.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > On 2019-11-14 12:46, Aaron Hill wrote: >> On 2019-11-14 1:02 am, David Menéndez Hurtado wrote: >>> I am transcribing a piece that is filled with the rhythmic motif "8. > 16 8" at different pitches. Being a LaTeX user, I want to write a macro > like \myrithm{c a g}. I found the documentation for Scheme functions, > and how to edit whole music sections, but nothing on how to insert a > fixed number of pitches. As I understand it, ly:music is an arbitrary > music expression, so I cannot restrict it to just three pitches. >> ... >> Ooh, you are *so* close! >> >> ... >> Here's the working version: >> >> %%%% >> \version "2.19.83" >> >> myRhythm = #(define-music-function >> (first second third) >> (ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?) >> #{ $first 8. $second 16 $third 8 #}) >> >> \fixed c' { >> \time 6/8 >> \myRhythm g d g >> \myRhythm e d g >> \myRhythm g a b >> \myRhythm c' a b >> } >> %%%% > > By coincidence, I encountered the same problem and came up with the same > solution, the other week. I'm surprised that we don't have any such > example in the manual since it really is very useful and at the same > time illustrates the power of combining define-music-function with > embedded LilyPond syntax. In LSR you can actually find a few more > examples that seem relevant, like > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=346, but as far as I can see, the > same could equally well be implemented like your example above without > requiring any Scheme competence. The only LSR example that resembles the > one above is http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=302, but it doesn't > illustrate the possibility to include multiple pitches in the pattern. > > In my own example, the same pitch is repeated multiple times in the > rhythmic/melodic pattern, like > > \version "2.19.82" > > myPattern = #(define-music-function (p1 p2 p3 p4) > (ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?) > #{ $p1 4 ( $p2 8 ) \acciaccatura $p2 $p3 $p3 16 $p4 $p3 8 #}) > > which can be successfully used like > > \fixed c' { > \time 6/8 > \myPattern a c' b ais | > \myPattern a f' e' dis' | > } > > However, it doesn't work in \relative mode, since the octave change is > applied every time the same pitch is repeated. Since I'm used to writing > in \relative mode and since \relative mode is very well suited to this > violin music that spans several octaves but often moves in small > intervals, I would have liked to write the above example using > > \relative c'' { > \time 6/8 > \myPattern a c b ais | > \myPattern a f' e dis | > } > > but since the second pitch of the example is repeated in the pattern, > the second occurrence of f' raises the octave again, which isn't what is > wanted. Searching the mailing list archives and the regression test > examples for 2.19, I finally came up with > > \version "2.19.82" > > myPattern = #(define-music-function (p1 p2 p3 p4) > (ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?) > (make-relative (p1 p2 p3 p4) (make-event-chord (list p1 p2 p3 > p4)) > #{ $p1 4 ( $p2 8 ) \acciaccatura $p2 $p3 $p3 16 $p4 $p3 8 #})) > > \relative c'' { > \time 6/8 > \myPattern a c b ais | > \myPattern a f' e dis | > } > > Adding occasional dynamic indications or articulations could be done > using the standard trick of attaching them to an empty chord at the > suitable location, like > > \relative c'' { > \time 6/8 > <>\f \myPattern_rel a c b ais | > <<{\myPattern_rel a f' e dis } {s4. <>^\trill }>> > } > > (not extremely convenient but still doable.) > > My main remaining problem is how to add a reminder accidental or > cautionary accidental on a pitch. Even if it was possible, you might > only want it on the first occurrence of the note so it's more like an > unsolvable problem. Probably the famous edition engraver can do the job, > but I've never taken the effort to learn how to use that beast, so for > the places where I urgently need a reminder accidental in the middle of > the pattern, I will not use the macro. > > /Mats > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:53:37 +0100 > From: Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: drawing a range reguardless of transposition > Message-ID: <20191114165337.GA831@liz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > In order to determine if I'm writing something that can > be played by an instrument, is there a way to display > on the score the supported range by that instrument ? > > I'd like to have something that doesn't change when I > transpose, so to know if transpositions are possible > at all... > > --strk; > > () Free GIS & Flash consultant/developer > /\ https://strk.kbt.io/services.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > ------------------------------ > > End of lilypond-user Digest, Vol 204, Issue 69 > **********************************************
