The fixed Diehl is the lightest one between the Grove single bar type, the retract, and the Diehl.
The Grove is more simple to install, heavier than the Diehl and more expensive than the Diehl. You can't go wrong with the Diehl fixed gear. I replaced 2 retracts with fixed and you could not pay me to build a KR with any retract system on it. It just does not need it and only complicates your life. KISS. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il MVN Bad Weather at Gathering time, is a killer or a real bummer. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -----Original Message----- Really? Has anyone weighed a set of each and compared