HI,
where can one find the information on locating the mains vs. c.g ?
thx mike
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Barry Kruyssen <k...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan
>
> I have a Jabiru 2200 in my KR2 and it is wonderful.
>
> I also think that you are too far back in the CofG range.  Don't add weight
> permanently.  Add weight to confirm this but just lengthen the engine mount
> and cowl.
>
> See http://www.athertonairport.com.au/kr2 for details on my KR2
> And about three quarters down the page is a link to how I did my W&B
> (direct
> link http://www.athertonairport.com.au/kr2/w_and_b.htm )
>
> I did have a problem with my new undercarriage as I mounted the mains too
> far forward. Solo this was not a problem.  But two up was different, I had
> too much weight on the tail when taking off and could not lift the tail
> before the main wing started to fly in ground effect, scary stuff.  After
> much research I found that there is range for the undercarriage in from of
> the CofG, so I changed the mounting brackets and fixed that.  Now it is
> perfect.
>
> Feel free to contact me regarding any aspects of my Jabiru installation.
>
> Regards
> Barry Kruyssen
> k...@bigpond.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of DAN INA GLANDT
> Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012 8:37 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> first flight problems
>
>
> Hi,
> After getting the brakes to work smoothly and completing my biannual flight
> check the day before, I tried the first flight test of my KR2S conventional
> gear with Jabiru 2200.
> It was a good day with a steady
> headwind of about 10 mph right down the 6000? runway.   The plan was to
> take
> off and fly
> along at 20 to 30 feet and then land.
> I got off the ground quickly at
> about 75% throttle. I expected that I would have had to apply some back
> pressure to the stick to lift off and climb but did not.
>
> The plane nosed up and climbed to 30 feet or so, then slowly nosed down
> some
> to about 20 feet then the nose started back up.  This happened like 3
> cycles.  All the time I am holding the stick as steady as I could in pitch,
> not wanting to aggravate the situation and get into PIO.  I felt no
> feedback
> stick pressure either forward or backward.
> I reduced power slowly and lost altitude until it felt safe to flare.  Then
> I reduced power and slowly applied back pressure.  The pitch oscillations
> continued.
>
> I could not hold a steady pitch angle as I flared.  The landing was in a
> word wild, but successful.  I can attest that the gear is rugged.  The
> plane
> never felt like it was going to stall.
> It just settled. With no feedback pressure, it basically felt as if I had
> no
> control.
>
> The safety person watching is a pilot and said it looked just like one of
> his radio controlled models he flew that was tail heavy.
>
> The next day, we did a weight and balance with 6 gal of fuel in the header
> tank and myself in the plane just as it was during the flight.  The cg was
> 12? aft of the wing leading edge, the center of the range.  The empty
> weight
> is 640 lbs.
>
> I can add 20 lbs of weight right behind the engine but it
> will only move the cg to 10.93? aft of the L.E.  As fuel burns off, some of
> that gain would be lost.  If I add 40 lbs to the front, the plane will
> probably fall on its nose when I get out.
>
> The control cables from the bellcrank behind the rear spar to the elevator
> are tight.  There is a small amount of play where the control stick mounts
> in the cross tube which connects to the bellcrank via a push pull tube.
> Because of the looseness at the bottom of the stick, the top of the stick
> can move at the most 1/8? for/aft before the elevator moves.
>
> I have a feeling that I am overlooking something and I hope to receive some
> comments that will help explain what happened and some ideas for a
> reasonable remedy.  At this point, it appears that it is a cg problem.  I
> am
> 5? 10 ½ ? and weigh 190 dressed for the flight.  Losing 40 lbs would be
> good, but
> probably not realistic.   If
> the plane is that sensitive to cg location, it looks like carrying fuel in
> the wing tanks or any luggage would be out the question.
>
> Dan
>
>
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