That's called a stress riser. That's not a material problem, that's a
design problem.the same problem happens with like materials, or even the
same piece of material.
On Sep 27, 2015 3:17 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
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> > >  has anyone combined fiberglass with carbon fiber
> > >in their projects? For example the instrument panel, leading edge and
> so on.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > You are talking instrument panels here, generally a non structural
> > component so it's not a big deal.  However, the practice suggests a
> > word of caution if done on other parts of the structure.  Barnaby
> > Wainfan has an article in the latest edition of "Kit Planes" were he
> > cautions the use of combining materials of different strengths.  For
> > example, adding carbon fiber to wood components can actually make
> > them weaker due to the different stiffness characteristics of the two
> > materials.
> >
> > For example, a weight supported by two ropes, each rope carries half
> > the load.  Replace one rope with a wire and the wire carries the
> > entire load until it breaks.  The remaining one rope is not capable
> > of carrying the load so it beaks.  Read the entire article in the
> > November 2015 issue of "Kit Planes".
> >
> > Larry Flesner
>
> Larry brings up a very good point here about mixing CF and other materials
> in a structural environment.
>
> Caution, war story to follow...
> I have a friend that decided to create Carbon Fiber tips on a wooden
> prop.  He trimmed down the wood prop tips a bit to make a more efficient
> air foil, then wrapped the tips in carbon fiber to add strength.  But
> instead of tapering out the CF, the CF stopped abruptly roughly 30% of the
> way in from the prop tips.  After about 150 hrs in service, the prop failed
> in flight.  It shed one tip right at the edge of where the carbon fiber
> started.  The sudden imbalance cause the other tip to shed almost
> instantly, but did leave the remains of the prop something close to
> balanced.  This was due to the stiffness of the CF causing the wood at the
> edge of the CF to take on all of the bending moment of the prop tips.  This
> prop was in a pusher configuration on an Eze type aircraft.  The departing
> prop tips took the top 1/3 off one of the vertical stabs and tore off half
> of one aileron as they departed the aircraft.  The pilot was left with 70%
> of his prop and a damaged aircraft at roughly 9500' in the mountains.  It
> took full throttle at now roughly 4000 rpm (estimated due to the 3500 rpm
> limitation of his tach) out of his Lycoming engine to maintain flight, and
> with the damaged wing and rudder, it took roughly 110kts to keep the plane
> from rolling over.  The pilot did make a safe landing at an airport.  But
> it was a hard lesson about mixing unlike materials in structural
> application.
>
> Having said that, for some applications, glass is used as the core
> material between layers of CF to make a very stiff composite section.  But
> engineering wise, the glass only counts as the sheer webbing and the CF has
> to carry the loads.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
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