Hi, Susannah,

> in a technical job (or situation such as staying
> up all night coding in your garage), feminine clothing just really isn't
> suited.  just /try/ putting together a box while wearing panty-hose, i
> dare ya.

I've done it.  Many times.  I used to work for a Catholic organization. 
The women weren't allowed to wear slacks.  I kid you not.  Dresses or skits
or else.  I also went through a whole lot of pairs of panty-hose that way
:(

> it's not the /gender/ of the clothing, imho, so much as the
> impracticality of said clothing.

You can wear feminine clothing that is practical.  A top can be feminine
because of the cut or the pattern or the color.  To me, feminine doesn't
necessarily mean short skirts or dresses or evening/clubbing clothes like
you described.
> 
> that said, there's about one woman in my department who does dress both
> fairly stylishly and femininely (if typically in either pants or very
> long skirts) and as far as i can tell she's basically treated like
> everyone else, because she's competant and gets her job done (in
> addition to being quite beautiful).

That's the way ot should be.  In a lot of places it is.  It just takes one
guy who is a jerk, particularly if he is in authority, to spoil things.  At
work now I have exactly one guy who is a jerk, but he has been stripped of
authority because of his attitudes, so he's mostly harmless now.
>  
> nope. most of the women here dress in jeans and t-shirt just like the
> guys -- but then, all of our /manangers/ dress that way, too.

You see, here nobody does, unless they work in the warehouse.  It
completely depends on the corporate environment and culture.  FWIW, I think
I'd like yours better, and I'd dress in jeans and t-shirts too. :)

> after all, no one seems to care about race (fairly multicultural
> office), gender (lots and lots of women, including my boss), sexual
> orientation (at least one person out as gay, possibly more including
> myself depending on how people view the pride sticker on my car), and
> religion (quick example: we have a nice muslim man working for an
> equally nice very very pagan woman. peacefully).

Why do I get the idea that you aren't anywhere near here???
> 
> (okay -- amanda -- am i on crack here? is this your perception, too?)
> 
> the possibility of my company being some sort of nirvana aside, i really
> think what most techie people seem to go on at bottom line is
> competance. they only discriminate if something interferes with that.

That is how it should be, but in too many places it isn't.  Where I work
now is pretty darned good, BTW, and the company has a really good diversity
policy that *most* people have no problems with.

Regards,
Caity


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