On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:29:17 -0800 (PST), Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >Steve, this list isn't about YOUR alienation, no matter how real it
> >may be.
> 
> >It's about OUR alienation.
> 
> Well, to an extent he's experiencing a lesser alienation female geeks
> sometimes feel: alienation from more "traditional" female groups.

I'm aware of this. But Steve needs to realize that he is free to pursue
other resources. He is free to create a list of "men who are alienated
from society at large" list if he wishes (or any other kind of list). But
this list is about the alienation specific to female linux users. :)

> Now, most of us don't give a damn about those groups, but there are
> some who might....

I don't personally.

> Kelly (who understands alienation better than anyone has any right
> to...)

I remember the alienation I felt as a new widow. Everyone wanted to be
"sensitive" and so many people avoided me (consciously or otherwise). I
felt alienated even from grief support groups because I had mixed feelings
about my recently-deceased husband (that's not allowed in most support
groups). Anyhow, I remember then that you (and a few of my other friends)
were the ones who DID listen. No "group" was there for me.

-- 
_Deirdre   *   http://www.linuxcabal.net   *   http://www.deirdre.net
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"That's because the Martians keep shooting things down." -- Harlan Rosenthal
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