I've read the two drafts. They are using different mechanisms and their goals 
are not completely the same. I support adopting both.

Regards & Thanks!
Wei PAN (潘伟)

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Tero Kivinen <kivi...@iki.fi>
    > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 10:49 PM
    > To: ipsec@ietf.org
    > Subject: [IPsec] ESP ping drafts
    > 
    > We have draft-colitti-ipsecme-esp-ping [1] and
    > draft-antony-ipsecme-encrypted-esp-ping [2] both of which propose ESP
    > ping, but on the different level, and each of those provide different 
level of
    > debugging capabilities.
    > 
    > The question I have for the WG, do we need both?
    > 
    > If we only need one, which one?
    > 
    > If we need both then should we go forward with both of them in separate
    > drafts, or combine them to one draft?
    > 
    > If you can send your comments to this thread by the end of month, so I
    > can then do WG adoption call/calls before Bangkok meeting.
    > 
    > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-colitti-ipsecme-esp-ping/
    > [2]
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-antony-ipsecme-encrypted-esp-pin
    > g/
    > --
    > kivi...@iki.fi
    > 
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