On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, Tero Kivinen wrote:

[ speaking as individual ]

We have draft-colitti-ipsecme-esp-ping [1] and
draft-antony-ipsecme-encrypted-esp-ping [2] both of which propose ESP
ping, but on the different level, and each of those provide different
level of debugging capabilities.

The question I have for the WG, do we need both?

Having talked to the proponents of both drafts, I think they are both
useful and cover different use case. It also seems not something that
can further converge into one solution. So I am in favour of adopting
both.

If we need both then should we go forward with both of them in
separate drafts, or combine them to one draft?

I would keep them separate.

Paul

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