I am confident that we can adopt both documents. I trust that the teams can
collaborate to establish the most common format, and if necessary,
ultimately merge the documents.

Yours,
Daniel

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:00 AM Antony Antony <ant...@phenome.org> wrote:

> Hi Tero,
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 04:49:15PM +0200, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> > We have draft-colitti-ipsecme-esp-ping [1] and
> > draft-antony-ipsecme-encrypted-esp-ping [2] both of which propose ESP
> > ping, but on the different level, and each of those provide different
> > level of debugging capabilities.
> >
> > The question I have for the WG, do we need both?
>
> Yes. I support both(I am a co-author of one)/
>
> >
> > If we only need one, which one?
> >
> > If we need both then should we go forward with both of them in
> > separate drafts, or combine them to one draft?
>
> At this stage, I believe separate documents would be the best path forward.
> Keeping them distinct allows us to focus on their respective use cases.
>
> That said, it would be great to have at least one common packet format
> that
> both drafts could align on. At Dublin I heard that Lorenzo was interested
> in
> supporting a common denominator packet format, which could help improve
> the
> user experience. We could do this after WD Adoption.
>
> > If you can send your comments to this thread by the end of month, so I
> > can then do WG adoption call/calls before Bangkok meeting.
> >
> > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-colitti-ipsecme-esp-ping/
> > [2]
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-antony-ipsecme-encrypted-esp-ping/
>
> -antony
>
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