On 23/07/14 13:05, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> It does sound very much as if >> > phpng is already a done deal and it just need to be rubber stamped into >> > the main development stream? > It's not a rubber stamp. If you don't feel it should make it in and enough > people will think like you, then it won't make it in. I think this would be > an enormous strategic mistake for the project, but it's a possibility. > You're right that we're not going to write an RFC for each and every of the > countless changes we made. It's a vote on embracing the entire refactored > codebase, or rejecting it. > >> > my own concern as >> > always is the effect on extensions I use. These sorts of substantial >> > reworks broke interbase for many versions back in the 5.0/5.1 days and >> > it was not until 5.1.6 that a working version was restored! Interbase is >> > not even included in phpng yet ... as are other database interfaces ... >> > areas where performance can be tuned by offloading work rather than >> > downloading data unnecessarily. > Assuming someone takes the time to do the necessary fixes to the Interbase > extension, then there shouldn't be a problem. Like any other extension in > PHP, things can get messy if there's no maintainer for the extension; I > don't know if the Interbase extension has one, but if not, it may take a > while for it to be upgraded or we might have to consider deprecating it > (hopefully not). Taking your 5.x example, even though life was tough for > Interbase users between 5.0 and 5.1.6, I hardly think that we should have > delayed for two years and a month (the time that passed between 5.0.0 and > 5.1.6) because that extension had no maintainer...
Thanks for that ... I WOULD spend time on maintaining, but there are only so many hours in the day and I've STILL got at least a dozen sites on 5.2 which need some TLC :( The plan is to get everything onto 5.4 this year but the continual fight with browser niggles messing up sites that have already been upgraded, and customers keep asking for changes they can't do themselves ... not sure even that is going to happen :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php