Le 18/12/2021 à 15:49, Dino Farinacci a écrit :
Let’s just see if the Gen-Z, web3.0, blockchain, and metaverse
generation can make pure decentralized peer-to-peer come to reality.
I would say too to look at these ^ directions.
It might be that we head towards a world where most things are 'siloed'
and the universal one-to-one connections from anybody to anybody
anywhere will be the advantage of a willing few. Each one of these few
might need to tresspass a local rule in order to be able to reach to
anyone else out there. That might be too much effort.
It is harder and harder to do a telnet to any site out there, or to ftp
any file from anywhere these days, without first accepting some cookie,
then overthinking whether the contents are appropriate without hurting
someone's feeling, whether the content corresponds to reality, and then
not worry whether or not a password was stolen, or traffic analyzed,
whether a legislation allows or not that key length, and whether that
other country might break these other lengths at their will.
blockchain-based money is favoured in certain places and disfavoured in
others. So despite its pretension of being an 'escape', it is actually
a silo. It is used by certain countries to escape monetary systems they
believe wrong, but as such they become 'silo'ed.
metaverses are places where people can meet, but only _some_ people:
those who can afford enough bandwidth and compute power. So they are
metaverse siloes. There are no metaverses for those with little such
power.
The generations themselves that are mentioned are the generations of
young, who form another 'silo'. The less younger dont use or need these
things.
In that sense, these directions are just other siloes.
To makepure decentralized peer-to-peer come to reality there is a need
to do some things, but I dont know which ones.
If it happens, then there will be signs.
For example, a sign would be: the Internet would be simple and safe to
use in confidence, again. Maybe that will happen again some day, at the
next round of leisure time.
Alex
Dino
On Dec 18, 2021, at 5:00 AM, Stewart Bryant
<stewart.bry...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no idea when I last sent a packet from my client host to
any other client host.
I can give two examples from the world of amateur (ham) radio:
I used echolink (VoIP) to a local repeater.
I received DX Cluster spots (reported observations of interesting
stations) from a service provided by a local amateur.
However I completely accept that there is no economic foundation
for these services and the design of these services is legacy.
Try as hard as I might I cannot think of any non-local service that
I use that is fully peer-to-peer outside the sphere of amateur
radio, which is itself a communications interest.
I can see compelling economic reasons for the development of the
Internet in the direction that Geoff describes. The services I
described above do not fundamentally require the 40 year peer to
peer internet architecture and can/would migrate to another design
if economics required it. Indeed in the latter case web hosted
alternative services emerged some years ago.
What is important is that we play the cards we are dealt not the
ones we were dealt in the last game. In other words we need to
design for the Internet as it will be, not the Internet we designed
before and not the Internet that we would wish for but which is not
economically viable.
- Stewart
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