> I have no idea when I last sent a packet from my client host to any other > client host.
I can give two examples from the world of amateur (ham) radio: I used echolink (VoIP) to a local repeater. I received DX Cluster spots (reported observations of interesting stations) from a service provided by a local amateur. However I completely accept that there is no economic foundation for these services and the design of these services is legacy. Try as hard as I might I cannot think of any non-local service that I use that is fully peer-to-peer outside the sphere of amateur radio, which is itself a communications interest. I can see compelling economic reasons for the development of the Internet in the direction that Geoff describes. The services I described above do not fundamentally require the 40 year peer to peer internet architecture and can/would migrate to another design if economics required it. Indeed in the latter case web hosted alternative services emerged some years ago. What is important is that we play the cards we are dealt not the ones we were dealt in the last game. In other words we need to design for the Internet as it will be, not the Internet we designed before and not the Internet that we would wish for but which is not economically viable. - Stewart _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area