Sourceless Network Architecture or proposals that related are quite an vivid 
example of innovation expected to be happened.
Challenges are how/where the proposals at such architectural level could happen 
at current Internet? (which is expected to be pervasive IPv6 but still 
dominated by IPv4)

Geoff’s view that host and replicated contents are in a same limited domain is 
feasible, but still need to answer that how to make innovations (or even a 
private protocol/architecture if needed, like SNA) happened from a network 
perspective?

Thanks,
Yihao Jia

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That’s different Brian. That is a packet header without a source address. Which 
“could” change the format (or if one decides at the same time to have the 
destination address 256 bits long).

I was roughly suggesting using the IPv6 header, as is, and just scramble the 
source address bits.

Dino

> On Dec 18, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Hesham ElBakoury <helbako...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> There is also this thesis: A better  Internet without IP addresses
> https://web.cs.wpi.edu/~cshue/research/dissertation_web.pdf
>
> Hesham
>
>
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 2:47 PM Brian E Carpenter 
>> <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 19-Dec-21 11:34, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>> >>  From a user perspective, the choice is clear: privacy and security are
>> >> top requirements. We know that payload encryption goes a long way, and
>> >> hopefully encryption of the transport layer headers will become
>> >> dominant so that intermediate nodes will stop meddling and ossifying
>> >> the transport layer. But not everything can be encrypted, the IP
>> >> addresses for instance, so providing real security and privacy at the
>> >> plaintext network layer should be on the list of features to support
>> >> user requirements.
>> >
>> > Definitely agree Tom.
>> >
>> > But what if we sent a packet where the source address was encrypted? Then 
>> > you could have global unique addresses (if you wanted them). Of course key 
>> > exchange and rekeying parameters would have to be setup prior to sending a 
>> > single packet.
>>
>> It's called SNA (Sourceless Network Architecture):
>> https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-849.pdf
>>
>>     Brian
>>
>> > Maybe its just simpler to randomize addresses.
>> >
>> > Dino
>> >
>>
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