Are there any JES exits in place on either system? Can you show the
Jobcard and JCL on both systems?
On 9/16/2025 10:06 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
Well, I did the LONG and compared the output, generated differences.
Class O
3.1 only:
3.1 JESCANCEL=ALLOWED
3.1 RESOURCE(JOE)=(LIMIT=DEFAULT,ACTION=DEFAULT)
3.1 RESOURCE(TG)=(LIMIT=DEFAULT,ACTION=DEFAULT)
2.4 MSGLEVEL=(0,1)
3.1 MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
2.4 OUTDISP=(,)
3.1 OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD)
2.4 SWA=BELOW
3.1 SWA=ABOVE
2.4 SYSSYM=DISALLOW
3.1 SYSSYM=ALLOW
2.4 TIME=(000030,00)
3.1 TIME=(001440,00)
Class H
3.1 only:
3.1 JESCANCEL=ALLOWED
3.1 RESOURCE(JOE)=(LIMIT=DEFAULT,ACTION=DEFAULT)
3.1 RESOURCE(TG)=(LIMIT=DEFAULT,ACTION=DEFAULT)
3.1 BLP=NO
2.4 BLP=YES
2.4 JOURNAL=NO
3.1 JOURNAL=YES
2.4 OUTDISP=(,)
3.1 OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD)
3.1 SYSSYM=ALLOW
2.4 SYSSYM=DISALLOW
I changed OUTDISP to (,) for both, verified that it took, then reran my job--no
change.
Would any of the other differences cause this change in behavior? Doesn't look
like it to me, but what do I know? Did I miss something I should have $Ded?
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Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: JES weirdness
Hello,
$T JOBCLASS(STC),OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE) - change jes on the fly $T
JOBCLASS(STC),MSGCLASS=V - change jes on the fly
$D JOBCLASS(STC),LONG - display
Then go change it in the parmlib. Jobclass can be changed to outclass(A)
Thanks
Shelia Chalk
Mainframe System Programmer
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Try the LONG option: $D JOBCLAS(x),LONG
Also, compare $D INTRDR
I had a similar problem, but I do not remember the details.
El mar, 16 sept 2025 a las 6:14, Brian Westerman (<
[email protected]>) escribió:
I believe that he is trying to tell you that your settings for the
MSGCLASS that you are using and the settings for the output DD class
arE different on your two LPARs.
Brian
On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 23:44:30 -0400, Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ok, and that means...? Sorry, you're clearly saying something
significant
but I can't grok!
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2025 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: JES weirdness
The MSGCLASS controls where the JOB log, JCL, and Allocation / steps go.
SYSOUT on DD statements control output for that DD.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 5:21 PM Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote:
From what I can tell, settings are the same on both systems.
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Output class parameters can be updated dinamically after JESPRM init.
Also, this changes may remain noted in Jes Checkpoint.
Try some commands and compare output:
$D Outclass(x)
$D Jobclass(x)
...
El lun, 15 sept 2025, 21:57, Phil Smith III <[email protected]> escribió:
More 2.4 vs. 3.1 oddness: on 2.4 if I run a very basic COBOL
compile/link/run job, I get two SPOOL files in the O queue. One
has the RUN output; the other has the JESMSGLG, JESJCL, JESYSMSG,
COMPILE, and LKED output.
The same JCL run on 3.1 puts the JESMSGLG, JESJCL, and JESYSMSG
on the H queue and two files in the O queue: one with the RUN
output and the other with the COMPILE and LKED output.
The only differences that I know of are the z/OS version and the
COBOL compiler version. The JES configuration on 3.1 matches 2.4,
allegedly (I don't know enough to be sure).
Any ideas? This isn't a huge deal but it's kinda irritating--I
just a lot of small jobs to verify stuff and keep having to find
the
"other"
file(s) in the other queue.
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