I'm still confused by "Noch Ah"; substituting the Biblical Noach still leaves 
it unclear. Maybe if I knew German or Yiddish it would be clearer.

-- 
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר




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Hi R'ITschak AMV"SH,
M'shugaas (Hebrew) is transliterated as it's pronounced in Yiddish i.e.
משוגעת

שבת שלום
צום קל

דוד נח

On 2025-08-01 08:03, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> Another meshigna ( so I believe. My Idish is not at best) ;-)
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> On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 2:35 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> מה זה בעברית?
>>
>> Translation? I recognize M'shugaas as שיגעון (craziness), but not the rest.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
>> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 9:49 AM
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>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
>>
>>
>> External Message: Use Caution
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>>
>> Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH,
>> Noch Ah M'shugaas.
>>
>> Regards,
>> David
>>
>> On 2025-07-24 09:22, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>> I found that out when I put some people in contact with Radus; the IRS
>> requires that remote workers be physically in the US.
>>> --
>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
>>> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
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>>>
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>>> ________________________________________
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>> behalf of David Spiegel <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 8:21 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
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>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> I am a US citizen, but, don't live in the USA.
>>> At some companies, I am ineligible for remote work for this reason
>>>
>>> (Some intelligent companies don't care where one resides.)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 2025-07-24 07:40, Steve Beaver wrote:
>>>> TCS has sold a service contract to Toyota in Plano.  The downside is
>> that TCS does not rehire and that is their choice.  The problem becomes is
>> that I have no Idea how many people on this list are former TCS employees
>> as I am.
>>>> But I have been approacted and/or contacted over 500 times for the
>> Toyota deal in Plano.  That many contacts has far beyond exceeded the level
>> of
>>>> Mass insanity and stupidity.  Also TCS has sold a service contact to
>> Boeing and Zions Bank, and  yet the recuiters keep contacting the same
>> known resources in hopes of finding someone.
>>>> There are other recuiters looking for companies other then TCS, DXC,
>> and CTS.  Those are the ones I want US Based zOS Systems Programmers to
>> target.
>>>> In the past few days I have been hit with e-mails for San Berinadino
>> County in California and I simply respond $135/Hr W2.  Again the recuiters
>> are using the same known zOS Systems Programmers.  Also I've been approache
>> for my skills of ACF2, RACF, zSecure, and TSS and it respond with $135/Hr
>> W2.  And San Berinadino County in California I know have been looking for
>> well over a year.
>>>> Beause of US Laws under the Trump Administration and government
>> regulated industries and companies lile Toyota that have statted US
>> Citizens only, no one from other counties can be hired and there lies the
>> rub
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:33 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. I mostly agree, but there would seem to be room for discussion of
>> what U.S.-based sysprogs are worth vs. ones in other timezones. It's the
>> "other timezones" that becomes an issue: when every interaction takes 24
>> hours because the two sides are 12 hours apart, that's a problem, no matter
>> how good they are.
>>>> And if folks are being offered the same rates as in the 80s, when the
>> number of quality people has declined precipitously, that feels like a
>> problem worth discussion too. But of course Radoslav is correct that
>> neither complaining here nor to a recruiter is likely to lead to any
>> change. Though I find it offensive to be approached with a lowball
>> offer--but that's just basic incompetence on the part of the recruiter.
>> Probably more useful to explain to them why it's lowball.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
>> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:29 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> On 7/23/2025 10:10 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>>>>> First of all, IMHO it is off-topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is off-topic despite we see "system programmers" keywords here.
>>>>> It is off-topic, because it not mainframe-specific issue, rather it's
>>>>> an issue of IT or even wider - about world economy and remote work
>>>>> possibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you can be angry for the rates, but it is neither issue of
>>>>> Indian people nor Indian companies. Even American or Canadian
>>>>> companies do hire people outside. Not to mention European giants like
>>>>> Atos, Sopra, etc. And all those companies do hire US citizens as well
>> as EU citizens.
>>>>> And people living in India, Indonesia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brasil,
>>>>> Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, etc. However it is not only about
>>>>> employees - Kyndryl or Ensono or other companies have big customers
>>>>> outside of US - is it OK? For me it is.
>>>>> And yes, US folks are usually paid better than people in Lithuania
>>>>> (Rocket Software), people in Poland are paid better than in Brasil or
>>>>> Pakistan. But the difference does NOT come from someone's appeals or
>>>>> invocations.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to change the rules - it's your decision. However I don't
>>>>> think the IBM-MAIN or RACF-L are proper places for that activity.
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