I'm still confused by נאך = עוד או אחרי אחרי is after; shouldn't that be אחר
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of David Spiegel <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 1, 2025 8:54 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers External Message: Use Caution Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, "Noch Ah" it (colloquially) means "Yet Another". The source of confusion is (my middle name) - נח (pronounced Noiach) vs נאך (pronounced Noch). Regards, David On 2025-08-01 08:29, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I'm still confused by "Noch Ah"; substituting the Biblical Noach still leaves > it unclear. Maybe if I knew German or Yiddish it would be clearer. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > David Spiegel <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 1, 2025 8:15 AM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > Hi R'ITschak AMV"SH, > M'shugaas (Hebrew) is transliterated as it's pronounced in Yiddish i.e. > משוגעת > > שבת שלום > צום קל > > דוד נח > > On 2025-08-01 08:03, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >> Another meshigna ( so I believe. My Idish is not at best) ;-) >> >> *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere >> Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux >> and IBM I **| * >> >> *|* *Email**: [email protected] **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* >> *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1UDiXNiFQun8OvuqYC_0PNDDLWz5E34SmDQcqW_USANv_O-z6KPGjS8GCc5GkINOWsBNej0TGNkbVc25g-05nbdYxSLmyEBZ1QY8ML_Lf496oGvp1zwugMwDtoIgukWrYaiWSwYLhiSnPaEWcF6impXAEHclJnbhWa81zcbbTRg8qUAR-uaYAWwst2juEbNUrIhQYWkgc2qNAoUv6S_PFAJhbfky4LxAipG9-i9hTVjWR3crQwvh3hzNUkjpUXK_7GWTsVh4SJWYIBY9HwpZkdjzX8uptgb8E0LfeXCL7Qe9UK6QC0QiBNj6uWN88JHWaT1sAOiu87ufdMluo8pBoCHa27cJWWPcruO7xB5H1iyVl-irTW76h6G3EGCRjTfI3CoNIK0qdoFgYmQBMAmLVAHkcOeceibfQ6VtEKkNaJ4E/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.securiteam.co.il%2F >> **|* >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 2:35 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> מה זה בעברית? >>> >>> Translation? I recognize M'shugaas as שיגעון (craziness), but not the rest. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >>> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי >>> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf >>> of David Spiegel <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 9:49 AM >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers >>> >>> >>> External Message: Use Caution >>> >>> >>> Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, >>> Noch Ah M'shugaas. >>> >>> Regards, >>> David >>> >>> On 2025-07-24 09:22, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>>> I found that out when I put some people in contact with Radus; the IRS >>> requires that remote workers be physically in the US. >>>> -- >>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >>>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >>>> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי >>>> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on >>> behalf of David Spiegel <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 8:21 AM >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers >>>> >>>> >>>> External Message: Use Caution >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Steve, >>>> I am a US citizen, but, don't live in the USA. >>>> At some companies, I am ineligible for remote work for this reason >>>> >>>> (Some intelligent companies don't care where one resides.) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> David >>>> >>>> On 2025-07-24 07:40, Steve Beaver wrote: >>>>> TCS has sold a service contract to Toyota in Plano. The downside is >>> that TCS does not rehire and that is their choice. The problem becomes is >>> that I have no Idea how many people on this list are former TCS employees >>> as I am. >>>>> But I have been approacted and/or contacted over 500 times for the >>> Toyota deal in Plano. That many contacts has far beyond exceeded the level >>> of >>>>> Mass insanity and stupidity. Also TCS has sold a service contact to >>> Boeing and Zions Bank, and yet the recuiters keep contacting the same >>> known resources in hopes of finding someone. >>>>> There are other recuiters looking for companies other then TCS, DXC, >>> and CTS. Those are the ones I want US Based zOS Systems Programmers to >>> target. >>>>> In the past few days I have been hit with e-mails for San Berinadino >>> County in California and I simply respond $135/Hr W2. Again the recuiters >>> are using the same known zOS Systems Programmers. Also I've been approache >>> for my skills of ACF2, RACF, zSecure, and TSS and it respond with $135/Hr >>> W2. And San Berinadino County in California I know have been looking for >>> well over a year. >>>>> Beause of US Laws under the Trump Administration and government >>> regulated industries and companies lile Toyota that have statted US >>> Citizens only, no one from other counties can be hired and there lies the >>> rub >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Phil Smith III >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:33 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers >>>>> >>>>> Hmm. I mostly agree, but there would seem to be room for discussion of >>> what U.S.-based sysprogs are worth vs. ones in other timezones. It's the >>> "other timezones" that becomes an issue: when every interaction takes 24 >>> hours because the two sides are 12 hours apart, that's a problem, no matter >>> how good they are. >>>>> And if folks are being offered the same rates as in the 80s, when the >>> number of quality people has declined precipitously, that feels like a >>> problem worth discussion too. But of course Radoslav is correct that >>> neither complaining here nor to a recruiter is likely to lead to any >>> change. Though I find it offensive to be approached with a lowball >>> offer--but that's just basic incompetence on the part of the recruiter. >>> Probably more useful to explain to them why it's lowball. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On >>> Behalf Of Tom Brennan >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:29 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> On 7/23/2025 10:10 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>>>>> First of all, IMHO it is off-topic. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is off-topic despite we see "system programmers" keywords here. >>>>>> It is off-topic, because it not mainframe-specific issue, rather it's >>>>>> an issue of IT or even wider - about world economy and remote work >>>>>> possibilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course you can be angry for the rates, but it is neither issue of >>>>>> Indian people nor Indian companies. Even American or Canadian >>>>>> companies do hire people outside. Not to mention European giants like >>>>>> Atos, Sopra, etc. And all those companies do hire US citizens as well >>> as EU citizens. >>>>>> And people living in India, Indonesia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brasil, >>>>>> Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, etc. However it is not only about >>>>>> employees - Kyndryl or Ensono or other companies have big customers >>>>>> outside of US - is it OK? For me it is. >>>>>> And yes, US folks are usually paid better than people in Lithuania >>>>>> (Rocket Software), people in Poland are paid better than in Brasil or >>>>>> Pakistan. But the difference does NOT come from someone's appeals or >>>>>> invocations. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to change the rules - it's your decision. 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