I work for a Texas governmental institution.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 8:46 AM David Spiegel <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jay,
> Texas law?! ... I recently did work for a bank in Texas.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2025-07-24 08:26, Jay Maynard wrote:
> > In fairness, there are organizations that can't employ US citizens
> outside
> > the US due to legal or government contractual reasons. I can't leave the
> US
> > and do any work from outside, for example, under Texas law.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 7:22 AM David Spiegel <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Steve,
> >> I am a US citizen, but, don't live in the USA.
> >> At some companies, I am ineligible for remote work for this reason
> >>
> >> (Some intelligent companies don't care where one resides.)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> David
> >>
> >> On 2025-07-24 07:40, Steve Beaver wrote:
> >>> TCS has sold a service contract to Toyota in Plano.  The downside is
> >> that TCS does not rehire and that is their choice.  The problem becomes
> is
> >> that I have no Idea how many people on this list are former TCS
> employees
> >> as I am.
> >>> But I have been approacted and/or contacted over 500 times for the
> >> Toyota deal in Plano.  That many contacts has far beyond exceeded the
> level
> >> of
> >>> Mass insanity and stupidity.  Also TCS has sold a service contact to
> >> Boeing and Zions Bank, and  yet the recuiters keep contacting the same
> >> known resources in hopes of finding someone.
> >>> There are other recuiters looking for companies other then TCS, DXC,
> and
> >> CTS.  Those are the ones I want US Based zOS Systems Programmers to
> target.
> >>> In the past few days I have been hit with e-mails for San Berinadino
> >> County in California and I simply respond $135/Hr W2.  Again the
> recuiters
> >> are using the same known zOS Systems Programmers.  Also I've been
> approache
> >> for my skills of ACF2, RACF, zSecure, and TSS and it respond with
> $135/Hr
> >> W2.  And San Berinadino County in California I know have been looking
> for
> >> well over a year.
> >>> Beause of US Laws under the Trump Administration and government
> >> regulated industries and companies lile Toyota that have statted US
> >> Citizens only, no one from other counties can be hired and there lies
> the
> >> rub
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:33 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. I mostly agree, but there would seem to be room for discussion of
> >> what U.S.-based sysprogs are worth vs. ones in other timezones. It's the
> >> "other timezones" that becomes an issue: when every interaction takes 24
> >> hours because the two sides are 12 hours apart, that's a problem, no
> matter
> >> how good they are.
> >>> And if folks are being offered the same rates as in the 80s, when the
> >> number of quality people has declined precipitously, that feels like a
> >> problem worth discussion too. But of course Radoslav is correct that
> >> neither complaining here nor to a recruiter is likely to lead to any
> >> change. Though I find it offensive to be approached with a lowball
> >> offer--but that's just basic incompetence on the part of the recruiter.
> >> Probably more useful to explain to them why it's lowball.
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> >> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:29 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> On 7/23/2025 10:10 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
> >>>> First of all, IMHO it is off-topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is off-topic despite we see "system programmers" keywords here.
> >>>> It is off-topic, because it not mainframe-specific issue, rather it's
> >>>> an issue of IT or even wider - about world economy and remote work
> >>>> possibilities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course you can be angry for the rates, but it is neither issue of
> >>>> Indian people nor Indian companies. Even American or Canadian
> >>>> companies do hire people outside. Not to mention European giants like
> >>>> Atos, Sopra, etc. And all those companies do hire US citizens as well
> >> as EU citizens.
> >>>> And people living in India, Indonesia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brasil,
> >>>> Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, etc. However it is not only about
> >>>> employees - Kyndryl or Ensono or other companies have big customers
> >>>> outside of US - is it OK? For me it is.
> >>>> And yes, US folks are usually paid better than people in Lithuania
> >>>> (Rocket Software), people in Poland are paid better than in Brasil or
> >>>> Pakistan. But the difference does NOT come from someone's appeals or
> >>>> invocations.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to change the rules - it's your decision. However I don't
> >>>> think the IBM-MAIN or RACF-L are proper places for that activity.
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