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> On Jul 23, 2025, at 07:33, David Spiegel 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> The real problem here is: HCL, TCS and DXC (and Non-Indian companies who have 
> decided to earn more per candidate due to the spread between what they pay 
> and what their customers pay.)
> They have to understand that skill/experience must be compensated at market 
> rate, not 40-year-old market rate.
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
>> On 2025-07-23 06:57, Steve Beaver wrote:
>> First of all I would like to extent my gratitude to the US Based zOS Systems 
>> Programmers
>> 
>> It strongly appears as a group we are standing up to the low-ball rates that 
>> the Indian recruiters
>> At offering.
>> 
>> I was approached about 10 times yesterday for a job for San Bernardino 
>> County by email and LinkedIn
>> and they we offering $60/Hr W2 that was no surprise.  I emailed back $135/Hr 
>> W2 and was called several
>> Times and I again told them $135/Hr W2.
>> 
>> Talking to the Indian recruiter, evidently as a group we all stood up and  
>> emailed back $135/Hr W2
>> Or directly told them $135/Hr W2.
>> 
>> Just as long as we all hold a solid front and keep saying $135/Hr W2 or more 
>> the companies
>> And the recruiters will have no choice but start paying what we are worth
>> 
>> Keep up the good work and the solid front
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>  
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