Touche. Since I don't want verbosity in my syslog/operlog, I failed to 
notice the consequence for those who might. The original intent of 
explanatory messages was to assist the programmer or production control 
person or whoever has responsibility for fixing the problem to better 
understand the failure. If a job owner cannot get access to joblog after 
the fact, that would seem to be a problem inviting operational reform, not 
functional changes in z/OS. 

BTW in ESP conversations on this topic, I suggested that another candidate 
for explanatory messages might be the menagerie of x78/x0A failures that I 
can never keep straight: get vs. free, private vs. common, above vs. 
below, etc. I can use all the help I can get. 

.
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JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]



From:   Edward Jaffe <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   05/04/2012 10:05 AM
Subject:        Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



On 5/4/2012 8:56 AM, Skip Robinson wrote:
> I like the solution. The installation can turn verbose on or off 
globally.
> The new 'filter' allows us to direct long explanations to just the
> programmer--my preference--or to syslog/operlog. Why complain about 'too
> much control'?

You misunderstood. With the new design, the messages will NEVER appear on 
syslog/operlog. This is the complaint.

-- 
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
310-338-0400 x318
[email protected]
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/


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