I was in the ESP and joined the follow-on conversations about the increased message traffic. The concern was not about a weightier syslog/operlog, but about the even denser weed patch that one has to wade through in syslog/operlog in order to troubleshoot some other totally unrelated problem. How many times do 'we' have to slog through the same explanation of essentially the mundane error? The verbose explanation does not tell a sysprog anything more useful than the ancient and venerable message itself: error code, return code, data set name, volume. Why would a sysprog need anything more than that?
I like the solution. The installation can turn verbose on or off globally. The new 'filter' allows us to direct long explanations to just the programmer--my preference--or to syslog/operlog. Why complain about 'too much control'? . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [email protected] From: Edward Jaffe <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 05/04/2012 08:43 AM Subject: Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 5/3/2012 7:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: > > If the new MPFLSTxx option has it disabled by default or enables the verbose messages, what > purpose does the OCE_ABEND_DESCRIP=YES serve in DEVSUPxx? What if you want the > original behavior? I ask, because I like it. I also like the current behavior. Job logs come and go, but the system log is forever. ESP for z/OS 1.13 began in late spring 2011. Some of the participants probably overreacted. People don't like change. The release went GA in September 2011. Many shops have already migrated and many more are doing so. There was no 'blood in the streets'. I can't recall hearing or reading any negative mention of this new functionality until Kevin's post. When I first read the ICN (Interface Change Notification) about this new 'verbose' message support, I thought "This is much ado about nothing." -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 [email protected] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

