I was in the ESP and joined the follow-on conversations about the 
increased message traffic. The concern was not about a weightier 
syslog/operlog, but about the even denser weed patch that one has to wade 
through in syslog/operlog in order to troubleshoot some other totally 
unrelated problem. How many times do 'we' have to slog through the same 
explanation of essentially the mundane error? The verbose explanation does 
not tell a sysprog anything more useful than the ancient and venerable 
message itself: error code, return code, data set name, volume. Why would 
a sysprog need anything more than that?

I like the solution. The installation can turn verbose on or off globally. 
The new 'filter' allows us to direct long explanations to just the 
programmer--my preference--or to syslog/operlog. Why complain about 'too 
much control'? 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]



From:   Edward Jaffe <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   05/04/2012 08:43 AM
Subject:        Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



On 5/3/2012 7:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
>
> If the new MPFLSTxx option has it disabled by default or enables the 
verbose messages, what
> purpose does the OCE_ABEND_DESCRIP=YES serve in DEVSUPxx?   What if you 
want the
> original behavior? I ask, because I like it.

I also like the current behavior. Job logs come and go, but the system log 
is 
forever.

ESP for z/OS 1.13 began in late spring 2011. Some of the participants 
probably 
overreacted. People don't like change.

The release went GA in September 2011. Many shops have already migrated 
and many 
more are doing so. There was no 'blood in the streets'. I can't recall 
hearing 
or reading any negative mention of this new functionality until Kevin's 
post.

When I first read the ICN (Interface Change Notification) about this new 
'verbose' message support, I thought "This is much ado about nothing."

-- 
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
310-338-0400 x318
[email protected]
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/



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