Hi, I realize you said that you contacted the Automation Software companies, but you didn't contact us. We have hundreds of sites running our automation software, and while we were aware of how to process and not process the verbose messages, we were never contacted from you (or anyone) to ask our opinion and you didn't even "inform" us it was going to happen until it already was shipped and by then we already knew about it from our own testing. We had to figure it out for ourselves and be able to handle it before IBM would even acknowledge the "change".
For the most part, from what I can see of the actual messages that are generated, the verbose messages are a huge waste of resources. I'm happy that IBM sets the default to NOT generate those messages. There are a great number of messages that could have been changed to provide more or better information, but providing information that should have stayed in the documentation (manuals) was (in my opinion) a bad decision and a waste of resources. I realize that CPUs are a lot faster than they have ever been, but using the resources on frivolous things like keeping people from having to look up a message by always printing the verbose text is silly. Most people have the manuals available to them electronically, and the ones who don't probably wouldn't be the one who is going to have to look up the message in the first place. Sorry for the rant, I was just very surprised by the way you presented the question which made it look like you consulted or even informed the automation software vendors before you planned to make the "change". It's not like there are that many of us and you could have at least acknowledged the change when we asked about it instead of ignoring the question and (even worse) bringing the subject up on a public forum. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about my relationship with IBM. Brian Westerman Syzygy Incorporated ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
