It helps when the customer support rep speaks and understands English. Had a 
neighbor with laptop to router problem , she was frustrated for three 
days..turned out o be a simple issue..

There also seems to be a bit of a epidemic of people would don't read or refuse 
to read manuals...A good manual worth it's weight , at least to me

Sent from my iPad
Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com



On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:55 AM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Dale Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> When my wife's windoze machine neared end-of-life, we bought her a new HP
>> laptop. I had to spend a lot of time fixing problems my wife encountered
>> because of HP's tactic of pasting HP-specific crud on top of windoze, but
>> eventually, we got things working in an understandable way. But then ...  On
>> the day after the warranty expired, the internet connection through my
>> wireless router would not come up. I pursued all the help pages and Google
>> and eventually discovered that the light (on the F12 key) signifying power
>> status to the wireless adapter was amber rather than blue. HP FAQ's and
>> Google hits indicated that I should just press the F12 key, but to no avail.
>> When I contacted HP, I was told that I would have to pay for support on a
>> time-used basis or get a contract for $59. I paid the $59 and was connected
>> to a lady for whom English was a second language. She knew immediately what
>> the problem was and instructed me to delete and rebuild one of the programs
>> that was part of the afore-mentioned overlay of HP crud, and then to
>> download an updated BIOS from HP's site.
>> What really bothers me about this is:
>> 1) The problem's emergence on the first day of non-warranty status.
>> 2) The fact that the problem is obviously with HP software (or perhaps
>> manufacturing processes related to software).
>> 3) The fact that support knew all about the problem, but it was not in the
>> FAQ's, or at least not recognizable by the symptoms I experienced.
>> 4) That I had to pay to discover HP's defect.
> 
> But you then posted the solution with lots of good keywords so the
> next person wouldn't have to pay, right?
> -- 
> zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it"
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