You can build a panohead yourself out of arca swiss rails, clamps and 
rotators. I built one for use with the Canon 8-15mm + A7Rm3A with an 
adapter as it was too big for my NN3MkIII. If you have some parts lying 
around, that could be a cheap way.

There are other solutions that are cheaper than the NN6 which might work 
with the 
14-24mm. 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SUNWAYFOTO-CR-3015A-Spherical-Panoramic-Compatible/dp/B07CNHLRH2
 
might work (no guarantee). This is another 
option 
https://panosociety.com/collections/panoramic-heads/products/nodal-ninja-ultimate-m1l-rd16-advanced-rotator
 
You can also look at https://www.nodalninja.com/ for deals on Factory 
Irregulars

PS "nodal" or "nodal point" actually refers to something different to the 
no-parallax point or entrance pupil of a 
lens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrance_pupil "Panoramic photographers 
often incorrectly refer to the entrance pupil as a nodal point, which is a 
different concept."

On Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 20:55:20 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> thank you, i understood clear! nodal ninja 6 is too expansive, should be 
> better buy a fisheye and a normal nodal rail. i can use nikon z6 internal 
> inclinometer to shot +45 and -45 degrees ;-) 
>
> Il giorno sabato 17 maggio 2025 alle 23:57:57 UTC+2 dkloi ha scritto:
>
>> No need to buy a fisheye to use with a panohead, the 14-24mm will work. 
>> For shooting at 14mm, you can use a pattern of 6 shots around at 0 degrees 
>> pitch, 3 shots around at +45 degrees pitch, 3 shots around at -45 degrees 
>> pitch, plus the nadir shot. There are other patterns you could use but this 
>> one should be pretty safe. For example, you can use 9 shots (see attached) 
>> plus a nadir shot.  You could think of getting a fisheye if you want to 
>> reduce your shot pattern when shooting at 15mm or 16mm or shorter.
>>
>> When getting a panohead, you should check that it is big enough for the 
>> lens you are using. The Nodal Ninja 6 might have a long enough upper rail, 
>> but the Nodal Ninja 3 might be too small for the no-parallax point 
>> (entrance pupil) to be placed at the centre of rotation.
>>
>> On Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 14:29:02 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> thank you, i don't pretend you to work for free. if you like, we can 
>>> deal for some price. i d like to learn so next time i ll be better. i ll 
>>> also buy nodal rail and fisheye, unfortunally i have 14-24mm so expansive i 
>>> would better like to use it instead of buying a fisheye, but if you suggest 
>>> me a fisheye that means it's the right way to do!
>>> source pictures here
>>>
>>> https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZo9vqZ5xpnsahXumpspsw5mOHh77GxnKzy
>>> and this is my juzaphoto profile, just to have fun
>>> https://www.juzaphoto.com/me.php?p=189460&l=en
>>>
>>> Thank you so much
>>> Nino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno sabato 17 maggio 2025 alle 12:21:12 UTC+2 [email protected] 
>>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Nino, 
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could share the photos somewhere (Google Drive, Dropbox, ...) 
>>>> I may have the time in a few days to give it a try and at least give 
>>>> you 
>>>> some ideas on how to improve thigs next time. 
>>>>
>>>> On 17/05/2025 11:11, Ninni Curinga wrote: 
>>>> > Tried to do with manual horizontal lines and ptgui trial..nothing 
>>>> > good, unfortunally source pictures are so bad. :-( i will not delete 
>>>> > them, waiting for some better automatized software or A.I. helping me 
>>>> > on that. in the meanwhile, if someone of you would like to try, we 
>>>> can 
>>>> > deal price for a lesson. 
>>>> > Thank you so much for support, and congratulations to you all who 
>>>> > really create wonderful 360* pano pics. 
>>>> > have a great day, send you hugs! 
>>>> > Nino 
>>>>
>>>

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