I for one appreciate the discussion.  We currently rent a dedicated box from
Limestone, but we're always interested in what else is available so we can
provide the best gaming experience for our community.  Great insight so far,
if nothing else in the form of helping some folks find providers that they
may not find on their own (lets face it, the ones that spam ads all over the
place aren't necessarily the best providers, right?)

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Shane Arnold <[email protected]>wrote:

> Actually, I would say this is very relevant, considering a lot of people
> on this list especially (Windows) would not be server owners and infact
> would be GSP customers ;) It's good to get feedback (especially if you
> are a GSP with negative feedback) so you can use it to improve your
> services ;)
>
> On 21/02/2010 6:12 PM, Alexander King wrote:
> > True this is for servers and it is off topic as usual
> >
> > Sent Using  My IPhone :)
> >
> >
> > On 21 Feb 2010, at 08:24, "DontWannaName!"<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> This may have to do with game servers but do you really think
> >> everyone on
> >> the list needs to hear about this discussion. This is the kind of
> >> topic that
> >> makes Valve want to switch us over to forums. If you want any
> >> constructive
> >> feedback you should go to srcds.com where they know about every host
> >> and are
> >> probably more unbiased than here. I bet if you search their forums,
> >> you will
> >> find everything you need to know and want to know about every
> >> notable host
> >> there is.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Josh Bost
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> @Nicholas: Yes.  That is correct, as Lane mentioned however there are
> >>> common items available in 'one-click' format (In the case of L4D2
> >>> last
> >>> time I checked it was several versions of MM+SM, SDK Hooks, and a few
> >>> others).  It makes sense for me, given that if they didn't prevent it
> >>> not only are the problems Lane mentioned present, however anybody can
> >>> then add L4DToolz or L4Downtown and give themselves an increased slot
> >>> count*, or other action like that.  Lets not even go into what they
> >>> could write themselves.
> >>>
> >>> *Though doing this without authorization gets your server disabled :P
> >>>
> >>> @Matt: Yes, however as it stands my server only runs MM, SM,
> >>> L4Downtown, and SDK Hooks and the update for L4Downtown wasn't
> >>> critical, all others were installed through management panel.
> >>>
> >>> @Cc2iscool: See previous points - those extensions could have easily
> >>> been malicios.
> >>>
> >>> @Shane: Exactly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nicholas Hastings<
> [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So what you're saying is that Hypernia won't let you put
> >>>> extensions on
> >>>> yourself and that you have to wait hours for them to update them
> >>>> instead?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/20/2010 9:26 PM, Josh Bost wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> To further my previous recommendation for Hypernia I would like to
> >>>>> note I have submitted 3 support tickets so far:
> >>>>> 1) Getting TF2 extensions added to the management panel to allow
> >>>>> PropHunt: Done in 3 hours, even though after sending in initial
> >>>>> ticket
> >>>>> I had to get the server owner to send in a ticket allowing me to
> >>>>> request stuff for them.  (They don't allow clients to uplaod .dll
> >>>>> files on their 'By the slot' servers)
> >>>>> 2) Getting them to allow me to have a 16-slot L4D2 server.
> >>>>> Resolved
> >>>>> in 12 hours, though that was due to me sending the ticket and
> >>>>> going to
> >>>>> bed :P actual respose to the first ticket was like 45 minutes.
> >>>>> 3) Getting L4Downtown updated.  Done in an hour.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:41 AM, John<[email protected]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Investigate the
> >>>>>> server performance and flexibility. Then, to see their response
> >>>>>> times
> >>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>>>> knowledge levels, ask all of them questions about improving your
> >>>>>>
> >>> routing and
> >>>
> >>>>>> server performance, plugin questions, and server configuration
> >>>>>>
> >>> questions
> >>>
> >>>>>> through their support system, even if you already know the
> >>>>>> answers.
> >>>>>> Experiment with the control panel and different services. (If a
> >>>>>> company
> >>>>>> offers a free trial or money-back guarantee, you could also take
> >>>>>>
> >>> advantage
> >>>
> >>>>>> of that, but a month would give you a longer view on server
> >>>>>> stability
> >>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>>>> uptime.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The "three company" strategy is often used for interviews with
> >>>>>>
> >>> contractors,
> >>>
> >>>>>> and it's a solid one.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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