What do you mean by having "room"? The problem is if you only have enough traffic to have 1 instance running (say 20 QPS) and the issue occurs within that instance, EVERY request will fail. I guess if you were to increase your QPS so another instance fired up, that may serve requests fine (will have to test this assumption). However, the first instance which throws errors may stay up for days and any requests which are routed to it will result in an error.
The problem isn't fixed. On Jul 5, 6:59 pm, "Brandon Wirtz" <[email protected]> wrote: > Multi-thread/thread safe is working on my java app. > > I think you have to have "room" for it to do something. Run your QPS up over > 100 so that you can see it working. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mscwd01 > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:44 AM > To: Google App Engine > Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Updated App Engine Pricing FAQ! > > Re:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4834#c13 > > I've been able to test this thoroughly now and can confirm the fix has NOT > worked. The easiest way I have found to replicate the issue is to allow all > instances of your app to stop and then begin making multiple requests a > second. The issue occurs throwing a 'java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException'. > > This needs to be fixed before the new pricing starts, otherwise the > thread-safe option for Java apps using JDO is USELESS. > > On Jul 1, 5:19 am, Tom Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > Re:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4834#c13 > > > FYI I don't think that fix works for JDO via jdoconfig.xml. I've added > > a comment after reverifying it just now. > > > I can easily reproduce it under load with or without the suggested > > settings. > > > On Jun 30, 2:06 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Oy, this is my fault for fanning the flames. I apologize for letting > > > this topic catch fire in the wrong places. Before we go into more name > > > calling: > > > Vivek has been an App Engine developer for a while, almost from the > > > beginning, while Jeff maintains one of the most popular Java > > > libraries for GAE - Objectify - and trust me when I say that he > > > *does* know what he is talking about. > > > > My statement called into question the assertion that PHP was what > > > App Engine needed. While the long term, > > > we-could-do-this-if-we-had-infinite-resources > > > goal is certainly to support EVERY language conceivable to man on > > > App Engine, this is probably something that Google will not do in > > > the near term timeframe. More developers does not translate into a > > > sustainable pricing strategy. Believe it or not, not everything gets > > > cheaper just because you have more users. Some things actually get > > > more expensive. Official support for PHP is one of these things. > > > > App Engine was an internal tool before it was an external one. We > > > launched Python because we understand it. We launched Java because > > > we understand it, and there is a huge userbase. Some Java users > > > expected to be able to port their knowledge of Spring/JSF/Wicket/etc > > > immediately over to App Engine without having to learn anything new. > > > I think we set the expectations incorrectly here. > > > > The plan that is in place will be very close to what we launch with, > > > because when we looked at different pricing plans, our analysis of > > > previous usage trends and billing led us to believe that the one we > > > have announced was the most balanced in terms of being developer friendly > > > as well as sustainable. > > > Unfortunately, we did understand that the changes would not work for > > > some people. The most constructive discussion we can have right now > > > is around how we can make this pricing work. What tools can we > > > provide? What data do we not display? How should support work? And > > > so forth. Throttler knobs, for instance, are an example of a feature > > > where much of the requirements were sourced from constructive user > > > feedback. Raising the priority of Python concurrency was another one. > > > > To answer the JDO question: have you tried comment #13? Seems to > > > resolve the > > > issue:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4834 > > > #c13 > > > > Ikai Lan > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Branko Vukelic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Jeff Schnitzer > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, vivpuri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> @Jeff i dont you have the development experience on AppEngine > > > > >> to even take part on this discussion. Before suggesting, first > > > > >> go an check what Quercus does and can enable you to do on AppEngine. > > > > > > This is the stupidest thing anyone has said to me in years. > > > > > And more to come if you keep replying to him. :) > > > > > -- > > > > Branko Vukelić > > > > [email protected] > > > > > Lead Developer > > > > Herd Hound (tm) - Travel that doesn't bitewww.herdhound.com > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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