Re: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4834#c13
FYI I don't think that fix works for JDO via jdoconfig.xml. I've added a comment after reverifying it just now. I can easily reproduce it under load with or without the suggested settings. On Jun 30, 2:06 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > Oy, this is my fault for fanning the flames. I apologize for letting this > topic catch fire in the wrong places. Before we go into more name calling: > Vivek has been an App Engine developer for a while, almost from the > beginning, while Jeff maintains one of the most popular Java libraries for > GAE - Objectify - and trust me when I say that he *does* know what he is > talking about. > > My statement called into question the assertion that PHP was what App Engine > needed. While the long term, we-could-do-this-if-we-had-infinite-resources > goal is certainly to support EVERY language conceivable to man on App > Engine, this is probably something that Google will not do in the near term > timeframe. More developers does not translate into a sustainable pricing > strategy. Believe it or not, not everything gets cheaper just because you > have more users. Some things actually get more expensive. Official support > for PHP is one of these things. > > App Engine was an internal tool before it was an external one. We launched > Python because we understand it. We launched Java because we understand it, > and there is a huge userbase. Some Java users expected to be able to port > their knowledge of Spring/JSF/Wicket/etc immediately over to App Engine > without having to learn anything new. I think we set the expectations > incorrectly here. > > The plan that is in place will be very close to what we launch with, because > when we looked at different pricing plans, our analysis of previous usage > trends and billing led us to believe that the one we have announced was the > most balanced in terms of being developer friendly as well as sustainable. > Unfortunately, we did understand that the changes would not work for some > people. The most constructive discussion we can have right now is around how > we can make this pricing work. What tools can we provide? What data do we > not display? How should support work? And so forth. Throttler knobs, for > instance, are an example of a feature where much of the requirements were > sourced from constructive user feedback. Raising the priority of Python > concurrency was another one. > > To answer the JDO question: have you tried comment #13? Seems to resolve the > issue:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4834#c13 > > Ikai Lan > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Branko Vukelic <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Jeff Schnitzer <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, vivpuri <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> @Jeff i dont you have the development experience on AppEngine to even > > >> take part on this discussion. Before suggesting, first go an check > > >> what Quercus does and can enable you to do on AppEngine. > > > > This is the stupidest thing anyone has said to me in years. > > > And more to come if you keep replying to him. :) > > > -- > > Branko Vukelić > > [email protected] > > > Lead Developer > > Herd Hound (tm) - Travel that doesn't bite > >www.herdhound.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
