-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 10:10 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > >>I'm starting to do just that. I've even asked Ciaran to review a >>particular ebuild I was interested in so that I could learn from it. > > That's still not *you* doing the actual work - that's you requesting > someone else to review your work - which is good, but a totally > different topic which doesn't really belong in this thread, imho.
Its a chicken and egg situation. I need to have a certain level of expertise with ebuild syntax and conventions to do the job. So I've asked for some help from an expert. Also, I learn things quicker and easier by first seeing examples and then seeing the documentation; that's just me. Once I've learned a bit, I can start doing things on my own. By the way, I didn't create the ebuild. Peer review isn't when you review your own work. Its when somebody else, knowlegdable in the subject, reviews your work. >>>If you so desperately want code review in Gentoo, why don't you do what >>>every other open source software developer has to do to get his ideas >>>through: put some work into it yourself? >> >>See above. > > > See above what? The part about you requesting someone to review your > ebuild? See above, again. >>Of course not. But the IEEE *is* all about peer review (as all >>scientists have been for the last few hundred years). And here is a nice >>high-level article about the benefits of peer review while developing >>software for the non-believers :) > > I'm confident that most Gentoo developers agree that peer review is a > nice concept Peer review is *not* a 'nice concept'. Peer review (as a part of the broader scientific method) is how humans have progressed from horses and buggies to the level of technology we have today. > - but... I think you need to sit down and participate in an > open source project to fully understand how it works. You can't just > step forward and say "this is good, you need to do this" as a bystander > - that's not how the open source spirit works. This isn't my first F/OSS project. I was active with Fr**Craft before it was (wrongly) shut down. > If you on the other hand step forward and say something like "I've spent > the last x months reviewing your code and developed a small set of > utilities for doing so, would you be interested in a wider use of > these?" I think you'd get a much better welcome. *THAT* is a great idea. I am proficient in several scripting languages. I am willing to write the tools if someone more knowledgable is willing to help me with what the 'best practices' are for ebuilds. Its a 'you help me and we'll both help Gentoo' situation. > In the open source community this is also known as "show me the code" as > in: if you want something done, you'd better be ready to back it up with > code and/or actions. Basically, you'll need to put more than words into > this, if you want to see it happen. Agreed. Nathan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCJpN2QTTR4CNEQARAi1lAKCWbAC/0Zf/crUQNlVkPe1zqnwsnQCeNUQY v9N1FPnAx5Bc6431eqTK7m8= =2qFM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
