Btw.... this discussion is typical of the ones I have had with Amol. Every
decision has a rationale, or the community is willing to be flexible. The
willingness to listen and to justify decisions bodes very well for an
incubation, I think.





On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Amol Kekre <a...@datatorrent.com> wrote:
>
> > oh! We preferred that during our discussion. Somehow we thought there
> was a
> > limit. I have changed it to full names (APEX-CORE, APEX-MALHAR). If there
> > is a limit we can reduce the number of chars later. wiki is updated.
> >
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApexProposal
> >
>
> Hyphens are not allowed as project keys, but underscore is a possibility.
> The default format is only upper case letters - but you'll need to check
> what ASF has configured.
>
>
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Changing+the+Project+Key+Format
>
> Niall
>
>
> Thks,
> > Amol
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Hitesh Shah <hit...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > If there isn’t a char limit on project names in JIRA, wouldn’t it just
> be
> > > better to use “APEX-CORE” and “APEX-MALHAR” to match the actual project
> > > names, repos, etc?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > — Hitesh
> > >
> > > On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Amol Kekre <a...@datatorrent.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > > Thanks for articulating what I was going to respond with after
> talking
> > to
> > > > folks here. We indeed see versions for Malhar and Apex differing. We
> > > expect
> > > > Malhar versions to change much more rapidly than Apex.
> > > >
> > > > Ted,
> > > > We discussed the impact of single jira on versioning.  For example we
> > > > expect Malhar X.0.0 to happen much earlier than Apex X.0.0. There was
> > > > discomfort in naming versions with prefix. The consensus was to have
> > > > version numbers convey stuff. If folks don't have strong opinion on
> two
> > > > jiras, we would prefer to use two jiras. We have taken up Bertrand's
> > > scope
> > > > naming and changed the names of jira projects as follows
> > > >
> > > > APX-CORE
> > > > APX-MLHR
> > > >
> > > > I have changed the wiki to reflect the above as jira project names.
> > > >
> > > > Thks,
> > > > Amol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Chris Nauroth <
> > > cnaur...@hortonworks.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> One thing to consider is that release version numbers are tied to
> > > specific
> > > >> JIRA projects.  If the intention is for Apex and Malhar version
> > numbers
> > > to
> > > >> be independent, then using a single JIRA project could introduce
> some
> > > risk
> > > >> of confusion if an Apex version number accidentally gets applied to
> a
> > > >> Malhar issue.  It might necessitate prefixing the version numbers
> with
> > > >> "apex-" and "malhar-" to differentiate.
> > > >>
> > > >> Based on that, I have a slight preference for separate JIRA
> projects.
> > > >> However, I don't object to using a single unified JIRA project if
> > others
> > > >> feel strongly about it.
> > > >>
> > > >> --Chris Nauroth
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 8/11/15, 8:23 AM, "Amol Kekre" <a...@datatorrent.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Ted,
> > > >>> I agree that repo is more critical than jira instance. I am taking
> up
> > > your
> > > >>> suggesstion with folks and should get back soon.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thks
> > > >>> Amol
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Ted Dunning <
> ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I personally see far less reason for separate JIRA instances than
> > git
> > > >>>> repos. Having all jiras under APEX seems a good choice.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:32, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > > bdelacre...@apache.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As for JIRA, I would apply the same rule, so APX-CORE and
> APX-MHAR
> > > >>>> maybe.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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