On 17 November 2011 14:07, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > $ mkdir org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator > $ cd org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator/ > $ wget > http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-source.jar
s/source/sources/ > $ jar -xf org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-sources.jar > $ wget > http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator.pom > $ mv org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator.pom pom.xml > $ mvn clean install ========================= Not exactly trivial compared with $ svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/releases/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator -- or -- $ unzip org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-source.zip (if it existed) and then $ cd org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator $ mvn clean install There's another (bigger) problem with the existing -sources.jar files. They don't contain any unit tests, as far as I can tell, yet there are some unit tests in SVN. Surely the unit tests should be distributed as part of the source release? == This is quite easy to fix, just (vote on and) release zip/tar.gz archives of the tags for each component. I would drop the -sources.jar files from /dist as they aren't all that useful for non-Maven downloads. == To make it easier to navigate the dist/ directory, may I suggest creating binaries/ and source/ folders? The source/ folder would contain all the current source zips/tgz archives The binaries folders would contain binary jars and javadoc jars The *.pom files would be removed, as the pom.xml files would be in the appropriate source/ archive. > regards, > > Karl > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:54 PM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: >> To try that I just went to the ACE downloads page which has a bunch of >> jars and source jars to download, i downloaded the source of the first >> one, org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-sources.jar, and >> looking inside there is the source to some Java classes but no build >> scripts or pom.xml file, so how would I go about building this? >> >> ...ant >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Again, we had this discussion before namely, when the actual release >>> vote happened. I'm still confused why we have to go through this >>> again. You should be able to build all of the components by using the >>> -source.jar's that are provided. They contain what is necessary i.e., >>> the full source. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:30 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release >>>>> as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to >>>>> be one release. The source for each artifact is there, it is just per >>>>> artifact in the -source.jar. >>>> >>>> AFAICT the full source (as in SVN trunk) is not actually present in >>>> the distribution directory. >>>> >>>> For example, where are the top-level files in SVN (BUILDING, README) ? >>>> And the etc/ directory? >>>> >>>> If I wanted to build any or all of the components, there does not >>>> appear to be a way to do this from the files in the distribution. >>>> >>>>> There might be different set-up then a lot of other projects have it >>>>> but we release our stuff on a per artifact basis how it is done by for >>>>> example Apache Felix as well and never has been an issue (and didn't >>>>> become unmanageably either - also ymmv). >>>> >>>> The ASF primarily releases source; releases must include full source. >>>> >>>>> I agree about the KEYS file. We should have uploaded it to the dist >>>>> dir as well but at least we have it at some place so it should be easy >>>>> to fix. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Karl >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 17 November 2011 10:42, Marcel Offermans >>>>>> <marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: >>>>>>> In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the >>>>>>> Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers >>>>>>> (12 in total now) from diverse organizations and did a release in May >>>>>>> this year to demonstrate we follow the Apache guidelines. We've shown >>>>>>> an ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices and ACE >>>>>>> continues to attract new contributors and users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first step is to vote as a community, demonstrating that ACE is >>>>>>> ready and willing to graduate. Once this vote is succesful we create a >>>>>>> board resolution proposal or Charter and start a vote on the general >>>>>>> incubator list. The full process is described at >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> The last (and only) release was 0.8, as far as I can tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no KEYS file in http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/, >>>>>> and there does not appear to be a full source archive of the project >>>>>> anywhere. >>>>>> The download page does not have a link to any source archives as far >>>>>> as I can tell. >>>>>> It does link to KEYS in SVN, but almost all other ASF projects have a >>>>>> copy of KEYS in the appropriate /dist directory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Normally releases are divided into binaries/ and source/ directories, >>>>>> with a KEYS file in the top-level, i.e. >>>>>> >>>>>> /dist/incubator/ace >>>>>> - KEYS >>>>>> - binaries/ace ....zip >>>>>> - sources/ace....zip >>>>>> >>>>>> Most of the files in the /dist/incubator/ace directory appear to be >>>>>> Maven artifacts; normally these are not stored in /dist but only in >>>>>> the Maven repo. >>>>>> Indeed most of the files are also in Maven Central. The only non-Maven >>>>>> files appear to be >>>>>> >>>>>> org.apache.ace.target.devgateway-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip >>>>>> org.apache.ace.target.devserver-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> neither of which contains the source. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would expect the above zips to be in >>>>>> >>>>>> /dist/incubator/ace/binaries >>>>>> >>>>>> with corresponding source files in >>>>>> >>>>>> /dist/incubator/ace/source >>>>>> >>>>>> The SVN layout [1] is also a bit unusual. >>>>>> There is no tags/ directory for release tags, although there is a >>>>>> releases/ directory containing individual entries for each release for >>>>>> each component. >>>>>> This is likely to become unmanageable very quickly, if every release >>>>>> adds another 63 directory entries under releases/ >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/ >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Karl Pauls >>>>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>>>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Pauls >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com > http://twitter.com/karlpauls > http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls > https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
