Hi,

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretaz<bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
> listen to the community?

That's certainly good, but IMHO not really the key point as it doesn't
address the case when those people lose interest. A community that
actually writes the code is much stronger than one that just helps key
committers do that job.

The River and PDFBox podlings that I'm currently mentoring are good
examples of projects where community input was valued and taken into
account by the key committers, but when they no longer had
time/interest the projects essentially stopped as there was nobody to
continue the work. PDFBox seems to have overcome that problem now and
River is showing some positive signs, but both cases have required
(and still require) quite a bit of mentoring to get them going again.

Besides all the other good things diversity brings it's also an
insurance policy for the project, and that's what I think the
Incubator should be looking for as a graduation criteria.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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