On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: > 3 is the minimal number that is needed for a formal acceptance. So I see no > problem with it. Click has been a successful open source project done the > Apache way before entering Apache, so I think it is definitely ready to > graduate now. While a possibility of a vote deadlock exists, it does exist > for any other Apache project as well. > > Interesting aspect of this though... say a PMC member X goes AWOL. Will it > be valid for the 2 remaining members to vote another person in the PMC? I'd > say yes, but definitely a non-standard situation...
PMCs I've been on have required three +1 votes. Perhaps thats a convention rather than rule, but for releases it a minimum of three +1 votes are required - see the "Votes on Package Releases" section here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html This issue is not a criticism of the Click community, but just a practical concern that it can continue to operate here within the ASF processes. It also would be good to have seen Click growing its community here - again not a criticism, but practical evidence to the IPMC to base a decision on graduation. Niall > Andrus > > > On Apr 24, 2009, at 1:25 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> Comparing the original proposal to the graduation resolution it seems >> that click entered incubation with 4 committers and proposes to leave >> with 3. >> >> IMO a PMC of three is not enough - one person disappears and you can't >> get the three votes required to do anything. >> >> Niall >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Bob Schellink <sa...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The Apache Click PPMC would like to have feedback on the following >>> graduation proposal before asking for a vote. The Click community already >>> votes in favor of graduation which is recorded here: >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/click-...@incubator.apache.org/msg00574.html >>> >>> Click status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/click.html >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution --- >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's >>> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with >>> the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to >>> a framework for creating page and component oriented web >>> applications, for distribution at no charge to the public. >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click Project", >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>> Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Click Project be and hereby is >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of >>> a page and component oriented web framework and related tools; >>> and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be and >>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The Apache >>> Click Project, and to have primary responsibility for >>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of >>> The Apache Click Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The >>> Apache Click Project: >>> >>> * Malcolm Edgar (med...@...) >>> * Bob Schellink (sa...@...) >>> * Naoki Takezoe (take...@...) >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar >>> be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, >>> Apache Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to >>> the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the >>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it >>> further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>> Incubator Click podling; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >>> Incubator Click podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>> PMC are hereafter discharged. >>> >>> --- End Proposed Board Resolution --- >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
