I knew that I should have renamed the thread when I replied ... :-\ Sorry.
I'll try to pull it all together here ...
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:28 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14/04/2009, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>>> <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Noel J. Bergman <n...@devtech.com>:
>>>>>> Craig Russell wrote:
>>>>>>> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some projects are just too small to warrant the target of a TLP
>>>>>>>>> or even a sub project
>>>>>>>> We agree! We have several projects here that I believe belong in
>>>>>>>> Commons!
>>>>>>> For example, we have a great little project called Sanselan that is
>>>>>>> "code complete" but has not attracted a big enough community to become
>>>>>>> a TLP. Commons could be just the place for it.
>>>>> Sanselan was top of my list when I made my comment. :-) If Apache
>>>>> Commons and Sanselan are interested, that's an avenue I'd like to see
>>>>> pursued....
>>>>
>>>> To clarify: do you mean Sanselan could "graduate" into Commons?
>>>> Commons adopts the Sanselan codebase and active committers, upon a
>>>> vote of the Incubator and in particular of the project's mentors.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a plan to me: accept smallish projects into the incubator,
>>>> but give them the option to graduate to Commons instead of becoming a
>>>> full-blown project, if their community does not grow enough.
>>>>
>>>> And projects too small for this should go directly to Commons,
>>>> starting with grants/patches which help their authors become
>>>> committers.
>>>
>>> +1. Sounds good to me.
>>>
>>
>> +1, provided that the project fits in with Commons goal(s).
>>
>> -1, if Commons is just used as a dumping ground for small projects.
> Agreed, I didn't mean to imply that Commons *has* to accept such
> projects, it's Commons' call.
Exactly. I abosolutely share the concern. Commons should NOT be used as any
form of dumping ground. Commons has to make a well considered and deliberate
decision if it wants to accept responsibility in each individual case of a
reusable library component. That is the very thin line that Commons is
walking: a single Community taking joint responsibility for a large set of
disjoint libraries, where few if any would be maintainable outside of the
Commons gestalt.
Let's leave THIS thread specifically about Sanselan. I'll start another one
about more generic matters.
--- Noel
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