On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Torsten Curdt <tcu...@vafer.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:15, Noel J. Bergman <n...@devtech.com> wrote:
>> And the person >> should be considered more trustworthy than most with respect to making >> patches, given that they are the contributors of the code in the first >> place. > > Well, they are also the person that could have potential code > ownership problems, could try to lead the project like they were used > to before and so on. I would not consider them more trustworthy in > that sense just because they brought the code. Well, how do you "trust" that a contribution arriving via JIRA is any different? We can't, and probably shouldn't, go looking for problems among the committers and contributors. Assumption that what people say is true, is probably a healthy starting point. >> They do need to do is become indoctrinated in the community, and if it is >> just a committer or few at a time into an entire community, Apache Commons >> ought to be able to handle that. > > So we just hand out commit access and hope (or try to make them) > behave? Isn't that a bit unfair to those that contributed over months > until they got voted in as committers? They had to show beforehand > they understand how things work. Well, now we enter a different discussion; "How much contribution is required for commit rights?" Something for your PMC to work out, and I can only lend out my own little idea; If the effort of applying the patches is exceeding the effort required to create commit account, then I think the account should be created. Now, creating a committer at ASF is slightly expensive, so a single patch is not enough but if the incoming codebase is expecting heavy evolution, then I think it makes sense to make committer immediately. If it is a mature codebase, then perhaps not. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org