On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Niall Pemberton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If this vote doesn't pass then we need to re-write the rules to
> > define how much of a majority overturns the status quo.
>
> I'm following http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html and the
> express wish of our PMC chair. I think both are well founded.
>
> > Perhaps two thrids, perhaps no negative votes. If this policy isn't
> > implemented, then I think all the people who voted +1 at least deserve
> > a definition of how short we fell of passing this vote and what the bar
> is.
>
> The way I see it, we make decisions based on consensus, not numbers.
> On procedural issues we define consensus to be the majority opinion,
> but there's a clear reservation for cases where it's unclear whether
> the measured majority is representative of the whole community.
>

I've also looked at the mentors votes, those who are basically running this
place. I'm a small player but Craig mentors 6 poddlings, Jim, Henning and
Jukka 4 and Doug 3. I'm not saying their votes count more than others, just
that when those people disagree, we should listen.

Matthieu


>
> This vote has made it quite clear that we have a much deeper
> disagreement over the status of incubating releases, and that we
> really should reach some consensus on that before nailing down
> decisions on release distribution.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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