Modifying the workflow slightly from my shoe-in assumption: 1) Remove all committers who have not contributed to the project while it was under Incubation.If they were new committers, remove their Apache accounts etc (well, freeze them - whatever). 2) Graduate into target, with PPMC members becoming PMC members.
I can see that there is a thin grey line in which you might have someone who is not yet a trusted committer (recently added to the project), but "getting the ASF" isn't usually somthing that is required to be on a PMC, that's something I hear used much more when discussing ASF membership. If, after N months/years in incubation, someone has not shown that they are a trusted committer - then they shouldn't be committers going forward. [which I think covers my reply to Ken's email on the subject too] Hen On 3/15/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Henri, > > I think a good example of why not just a shoe in is because when the > ServiceMix and ActiveMQ apache commiter list was created, it included > all previous commiters to the project. But 100% of committers may not > have been active during the period of the incubation. All though the > projects trusted those individuals enough in the past to give them > commit privileges, perhaps the TLP PMC may want to see more recent > activity to evaluate if they truly 'get' the Apache way. > > Regards, > Hiram > > On 3/15/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/15/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Noel, > > > > > > If the ActiveMQ / ServiceMix community do decide to go under some > > > other TLP, I'm sure it would not take long for the active > > > participants of the community to asked to Join the TLP's PMC. It > > > would behoove that PMC to include such active community participants > > > in the decision making proccess. > > > > Interesting reply - I'd been assuming that when an incubatee graduates > > into an existing project, it's PPMC automatically get added to the > > PMC. So I was a bit confused as to why Noel was even asking the > > question. > > > > > Furthermore, I believe that merging ActiveMQ and Servicemix into > > > Geronimo community and PMC is easier than most cases since there are > > > all ready several active ActiveMQ/ServiceMix commiters thar are > > > Geronimo PMC members. Those PMC memebers can help propose and vouch > > > for additional commiters to join the PMC. > > > > Yeah, overlap would help. Still surprised that it's not just a shoe-in. > > > > Hen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Hiram > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]