yes i agree. in my opinion all blind folks should learn to read braille and write it with a slate and stylus and also a perkins brailler. after all slates are $5 US dollars or so therefore everyone should be able to read and write stuff. I think we also need OBR optical braille recognition to scan braille into the computer and turn our writing into printed materials.

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On 6/20/2015 11:33 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
That's why this pamphlet should be in braille. Other than you and your fingers, no equipment necessary. Independent reading at your own pace. Totally random access of information. The noise in the room doesn't interfere, and any blind person who learned to read for themselves can access it.

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I use a combination of braille alongside my technology like the pc and android phone. for example i take phone numbers and contacts and write them with my slate and keep a braille copy. then i don't always need to turn a device on i can just look up the number in my own custom addressbook with other notes and stuff when needed.

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On 6/20/2015 10:09 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
If you can use screen magnification software on your PC, I would think that you can also play graphically oriented games, and so would not fall into the market this project is aimed at.

If you are not braille literate due to a lack of its importance in your life, and you rely on your audio speech technology, you can use a search engine or Email, and are not a member of the target audience, either.

That leaves those who get their information through the use of braille, and who are not aware of the existence of computer games designed for blind people. They may not even have a computer, and the gaming might be what gets them interested. The braille readers who may be cut off from the computer literate should be the focus.

Maybe other methods of pamphlet distribution can be available at conventions or other gathering events where there will be a lot of blind and visually impaired people, but I think that braille should be the main media format.

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Hi Charles,

Interesting you brought the subject up of preference for braille over
electronic formats because it is one I think directly needs addressed.
Main reason I feel it needs to be addressed is we have something of a
generational gap here in this country and perhaps around the world.

There are undoubtedly older blind people who grew up on braille, were
taught to use it for anything and everything, and have a personal
preference for braille materials when and where possible. Now, we have
many younger blind people, particularly millennials, who favor
technology over braille. Some will outright state braille is no longer
relevant, and have abysmal to little braille literacy because they
spend their day using their iPhone, iPad, PC or some other gadget
which has replaced the use of braille in his or her life.

In short, if someone were to go move forward with this informational
campaign it might be better to offer more than one method of
distribution or format. I can clearly see there are valid arguments
for braille and also just as equally valid arguments for something
else electronic. Not to mention we haven't even talked about large
print which is necessary for those with low vision problems who don't
read braille but do need large print etc.

Cheers!


On 6/19/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people in formats other than electronic for a change. Although they may be few, there

are people who prefer to do their own reading. There also may be people who

don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest. What made

the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer application--the
Spreadsheet.  Once their value was realized, we've never looked back.
Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got to find

out about the gaming field from somewhere.  Maybe through a friend or
something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way, browsing a

catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure. Braille is

the way to go. No machine is necessary. Read it yourself, just like anyone

else at conventions does.

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