I mean I had to jump through hoops to get that embosser. I was really
pissed about it.

On 6/20/15, Josh K <[email protected]> wrote:
> oh yes i do keep my braille for years. i get my thermoform from future
> aids the braille superstore. I write pretty quick with the slate and
> stylus and also the perkins brailler will write on thermoform as well. i
> use the thermoform for my addressbook and other notes i want to last
> long. and i have some lightweight standard ink printer paper for just
> casual brailling like my 8 year old son's spelling words lists during
> school. I like to use braille to complement the technology I have.
>
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>
> On 6/20/2015 11:03 AM, Danielle Ledet wrote:
>> Dark, that is what I was thinking. Jeremy, you are right but what
>> would it hurt for someone to approach the orgs around convention time.
>> I know NFB state affiliates Braille their own stuff and Im sure ACB
>> does too. Maybe cost could be negotiated with them to do the
>> Brailling. Then, you could reach out to rehab agencies and maybe some
>> folks could leave a pamphlet heare and there at local libraries and
>> health fairs and doctor offices. Just some off the top small thinking.
>> Tom, exactly. Add to that the little sections at the end of the
>> Braille Forum, the Braille Monitor, and the Blind Bargains
>> classifieds. We wouldn't actually know what the cost would be until
>> somebody produced this pamphlet and brailled out a sample and
>> presented to the transcribers woud we? I don't see why it would be
>> such a big deal for these resellers to stick that right in the middle
>> of the Braille catalogs they send out or include it with audio media.
>> It would be like all that extra stuff you get with your bank statement
>> or phone bill or a Valpak coupon. Josh, I will look into this. I had a
>> Juliet Classic in good working order and no telling where my parents
>> put it. Might not even be usable anymore. So I need something and
>> can't afford a heavy-duty printer like Juliet and don't have sponsors
>> anymore. $300 would be doable over time though. Jeez, I never thought
>> to write on thermoform myself. You must keep your Braille for years.
>> Charles, I echo you. Braille Braille, Braille. Bring it back! I feel
>> lost even after all these years being unable to quickly right
>> something down or pick it up and read. Now I lose a lot of info with
>> computers constantly being purposefully fried! Folks just don't
>> understand. Nothing against the folks who love their newfound freedom
>> with modern tech but I feel like they are at war with me personally.
>> Well, folks since I keep having to make unnecessary repair, I'm never
>> gling to ketch up! That should be obvious though.
>>
>> Danielle
>>
>> On 6/20/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If you can use screen magnification software on your PC, I would think
>>> that
>>>
>>> you can also play graphically oriented games, and so would not fall into
>>> the
>>>
>>> market this project is aimed at.
>>>
>>> If you are not braille literate due to a lack of its importance in your
>>> life, and you rely on your audio speech technology, you can use a search
>>> engine or Email, and are not a member of the target audience, either.
>>>
>>> That leaves those who get their information through the use of braille,
>>> and
>>>
>>> who are not aware of the existence of computer games designed for blind
>>> people.  They may not even have a computer, and the gaming might be what
>>> gets them interested.  The braille readers who may be cut off from the
>>> computer literate should be the focus.
>>>
>>> Maybe other methods of pamphlet distribution can be available at
>>> conventions
>>>
>>> or other gathering events where there will be a lot of blind and
>>> visually
>>> impaired people, but I think that braille should be the main media
>>> format.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>>> finished,
>>>
>>> you! really! are! finished!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games
>>> (was
>>>
>>> info games game engines)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting you brought the subject up of preference for braille over
>>>> electronic formats because it is one I think directly needs addressed.
>>>> Main reason I feel it needs to be addressed is we have something of a
>>>> generational gap here in this country and perhaps around the world.
>>>>
>>>> There are undoubtedly older blind people who grew up on braille, were
>>>> taught to use it for anything and everything, and have a personal
>>>> preference for braille materials when and where possible. Now, we have
>>>> many younger blind people, particularly millennials, who favor
>>>> technology over braille. Some will outright state braille is no longer
>>>> relevant, and have abysmal to little braille literacy because they
>>>> spend their day using their iPhone, iPad, PC or some other gadget
>>>> which has replaced the use of braille in his or her life.
>>>>
>>>> In short, if someone were to go move forward with this informational
>>>> campaign it might be better to offer more than one method of
>>>> distribution or format. I can clearly see there are valid arguments
>>>> for braille and also just as equally valid arguments for something
>>>> else electronic. Not to mention we haven't even talked about large
>>>> print which is necessary for those with low vision problems who don't
>>>> read braille but do need large print etc.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/19/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people
>>>>> in
>>>>> formats other than electronic for a change.  Although they may be few,
>>>>> there
>>>>>
>>>>> are people who prefer to do their own reading.  There also may be
>>>>> people
>>>>>
>>>>> who
>>>>>
>>>>> don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest.
>>>>> What
>>>>> made
>>>>>
>>>>> the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer
>>>>> application--the
>>>>> Spreadsheet.  Once their value was realized, we've never looked back.
>>>>> Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got
>>>>> to
>>>>> find
>>>>>
>>>>> out about the gaming field from somewhere.  Maybe through a friend or
>>>>> something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way,
>>>>> browsing a
>>>>>
>>>>> catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure.
>>>>> Braille
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>> the way to go.  No machine is necessary.  Read it yourself, just like
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>
>>>>> else at conventions does.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>>>>> finished,
>>>>>
>>>>> you! really! are! finished!
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