You state: "I am not sure if anyone really reads braille these days."

My comment: Pay closer attention to posts and think. Why is there currently so much talk about using our braille embossers and translation software to create the document under discussion? Who is this being proposed to serve? If there were no braille readers, there would be no interest in this project at all, would there? I think you'd better wake up or send more responsible posts.

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Charles I agree.
There are those that don't use a computer.
The easiest and lest expensive is audio mp3 or cd.
I don't think tape decks exist now but that was also an easy way to handle it.
I am not sure if anyone really reads braille these days.
I remember I used to get material stapled together news letters etc.
However even the old braille books for me are getting the chop over electronic. They are just to heavy and to take a single book to travel is like up to 6 bags, who can be bothered with that.
Yes you still can get normal braille but there is a cost in doing that.
Pluss just before I finally quit the braille scene all braille paper was changed there are 3 types.
1. the a4 type in most printers.
2. the a3 used in older braille units and the last is the 3 page junket thats used in embossers but who knows what it is now. When I started testing the unified code there was talk of making everything use a4 in fact there was talk of just using standard computer paper for braille.

At 05:52 a.m. 20/06/2015, you wrote:
I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people in formats other than electronic for a change. Although they may be few, there are people who prefer to do their own reading. There also may be people who don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest. What made the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer application--the Spreadsheet. Once their value was realized, we've never looked back. Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got to find out about the gaming field from somewhere. Maybe through a friend or something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way, browsing a catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure. Braille is the way to go. No machine is necessary. Read it yourself, just like anyone else at conventions does.

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Hi Dark,

Perhaps, but I think we are running into a communication error since I
didn't make my thoughts fully clear in my last post.

To begin with a lot of these resellers now offer their catalogs
electronically. Either as a download on their website, sometimes
e-mailed directly to the customer, or shipped to them on CD. As a
result if Auddyssey or Audiogames.net wanted to put an informational
advertisement in one of their catalogs they could probably do so
without incurring any cost to either the reseller or to themselves
since the catalog is already electronic for the most part. Therefore
all this talk of embossing pamphlets and so forth could be rendered
mute as there might be a less expensive way to get the word out to
customers without involving huge startup costs or involving
organizations.

So that should answer two of your questions.
A reseller can or should be able to send out a free pamplet because it
is electronic and would be of no cost to them. Merely a few bites of
info inside their monthly catalog. Thus there also would be no need to
sell it since there is no cost involved for anyone to get the word
out.

Cheers!


On 6/19/15, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Tomm.

I do believe the cost to get a number of pamflets printed wouldn't be quite

so insane, sinse after all in the Uk lots of organizations from theatres to

restaurant chains have stuff brailled, heck my bank can deliver a braille bank statement each month if I wish and I doubt they'd be paying too much.

It's likely something that needs looking into formally.

Distributing through resellers is a good idea, however my concern is why should a company send out a free pamflet? and if the pamflet was not free
why would people buy it?

I also have noticed myself that a lot of charitable blindness organizations

in the Uk at least do have quite a bit of promotional material kicking
around both for other services and for commercial products, so I don't think

it'd be asking too much for them to have a general informational leaflet
available as well, plus of course it's far easier to send free leaflets to
say schools for the blind or meeting groups (sinse hay we might not like
them but there are potentially people interested in games there), than to
get them to buy an informational resource.

Then again there is a way to find out, I wonder how many people have bought

that actual book on Ios accessible games which phil mentioned? A book is far

more information than I was thinkng, but hay if people are interested in
buying it then maybe a paid leaflet on audiogames in general wouldn't be
such a bad thing.

All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast

and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even
the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.

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