you're lucky though. I don't have the money to even think of getting an
embosser. in fact if it wren't for my mom keeping that old perkins in
her basement for 20 some years I wouldn't even have that. without that
most I could afford would be a slate and stylus to write braille with.
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On 6/20/2015 11:22 AM, Danielle Ledet wrote:
I mean I had to jump through hoops to get that embosser. I was really
pissed about it.
On 6/20/15, Josh K <[email protected]> wrote:
oh yes i do keep my braille for years. i get my thermoform from future
aids the braille superstore. I write pretty quick with the slate and
stylus and also the perkins brailler will write on thermoform as well. i
use the thermoform for my addressbook and other notes i want to last
long. and i have some lightweight standard ink printer paper for just
casual brailling like my 8 year old son's spelling words lists during
school. I like to use braille to complement the technology I have.
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On 6/20/2015 11:03 AM, Danielle Ledet wrote:
Dark, that is what I was thinking. Jeremy, you are right but what
would it hurt for someone to approach the orgs around convention time.
I know NFB state affiliates Braille their own stuff and Im sure ACB
does too. Maybe cost could be negotiated with them to do the
Brailling. Then, you could reach out to rehab agencies and maybe some
folks could leave a pamphlet heare and there at local libraries and
health fairs and doctor offices. Just some off the top small thinking.
Tom, exactly. Add to that the little sections at the end of the
Braille Forum, the Braille Monitor, and the Blind Bargains
classifieds. We wouldn't actually know what the cost would be until
somebody produced this pamphlet and brailled out a sample and
presented to the transcribers woud we? I don't see why it would be
such a big deal for these resellers to stick that right in the middle
of the Braille catalogs they send out or include it with audio media.
It would be like all that extra stuff you get with your bank statement
or phone bill or a Valpak coupon. Josh, I will look into this. I had a
Juliet Classic in good working order and no telling where my parents
put it. Might not even be usable anymore. So I need something and
can't afford a heavy-duty printer like Juliet and don't have sponsors
anymore. $300 would be doable over time though. Jeez, I never thought
to write on thermoform myself. You must keep your Braille for years.
Charles, I echo you. Braille Braille, Braille. Bring it back! I feel
lost even after all these years being unable to quickly right
something down or pick it up and read. Now I lose a lot of info with
computers constantly being purposefully fried! Folks just don't
understand. Nothing against the folks who love their newfound freedom
with modern tech but I feel like they are at war with me personally.
Well, folks since I keep having to make unnecessary repair, I'm never
gling to ketch up! That should be obvious though.
Danielle
On 6/20/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
If you can use screen magnification software on your PC, I would think
that
you can also play graphically oriented games, and so would not fall into
the
market this project is aimed at.
If you are not braille literate due to a lack of its importance in your
life, and you rely on your audio speech technology, you can use a search
engine or Email, and are not a member of the target audience, either.
That leaves those who get their information through the use of braille,
and
who are not aware of the existence of computer games designed for blind
people. They may not even have a computer, and the gaming might be what
gets them interested. The braille readers who may be cut off from the
computer literate should be the focus.
Maybe other methods of pamphlet distribution can be available at
conventions
or other gathering events where there will be a lot of blind and
visually
impaired people, but I think that braille should be the main media
format.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games
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Hi Charles,
Interesting you brought the subject up of preference for braille over
electronic formats because it is one I think directly needs addressed.
Main reason I feel it needs to be addressed is we have something of a
generational gap here in this country and perhaps around the world.
There are undoubtedly older blind people who grew up on braille, were
taught to use it for anything and everything, and have a personal
preference for braille materials when and where possible. Now, we have
many younger blind people, particularly millennials, who favor
technology over braille. Some will outright state braille is no longer
relevant, and have abysmal to little braille literacy because they
spend their day using their iPhone, iPad, PC or some other gadget
which has replaced the use of braille in his or her life.
In short, if someone were to go move forward with this informational
campaign it might be better to offer more than one method of
distribution or format. I can clearly see there are valid arguments
for braille and also just as equally valid arguments for something
else electronic. Not to mention we haven't even talked about large
print which is necessary for those with low vision problems who don't
read braille but do need large print etc.
Cheers!
On 6/19/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people
in
formats other than electronic for a change. Although they may be few,
there
are people who prefer to do their own reading. There also may be
people
who
don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest.
What
made
the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer
application--the
Spreadsheet. Once their value was realized, we've never looked back.
Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got
to
find
out about the gaming field from somewhere. Maybe through a friend or
something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way,
browsing a
catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure.
Braille
is
the way to go. No machine is necessary. Read it yourself, just like
anyone
else at conventions does.
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