I also see only some emails. Don't know why. Yes, a subjective experience is 
always linked to a specific subject. I would say we can divide subjective 
experience intoa) a physical part that depends on molecular biology and genes: 
receptors for pain and pleasure, for red, green and blue colors or sweet, 
salty, sour and bitter taste. this part is irreducible and depends on our 
speciesb) a cultural part that defines subjective meaning (in China for example 
the colors white and red have different meaning than in Europe)c) a personal 
part that depends on the history of a personThe mathematics used in the proofs 
describes more the personal part c) and perhaps part b) if we model the history 
of whole countries.-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Santafe <[email protected]> Date: 
10/5/26  8:08 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A field theory of understanding 
For whatever reason, Jochen’s posts don’t forward to me, so I only see them in 
the later context of somebody else’s replies.  In this case EricC’s, on Nick’s. 
I will clip to the focal sentence (acknowledging all that was clipped):
> Claude was not happy about the theorem proofs that Gemini created.
> And Jon also mentioned that they are not waterproof. So I asked Claude
> and Gemini if they could write a new proof. They could. I asked them
> if we could use gauge theory to explain subjective experience - gauge
> invariance to describe objectivity, and symmetry breaking for
> subjectivity. I think there was a time when I had enthusiasm for using these 
> mathematical-physics metaphors.  Something has apparently happened.  I 
> probably said, a while ago (so if you feel like it, forgive the repetition), 
> that since I don’t know what philosophers mean by objective and subjective, I 
> could take the more defensive posture of being a linguistic semanticist, 
> which to me seems like a more pragmatist standing-point anyway, leaving many 
> further mistakes for the future rather than making them all at once.I could 
> take “objective” and “subjective” to be two speech registers, in an ordinary 
> lexical/grammatical-semantics sense.  A sentence in an “objective” register 
> is one that I can parse to a meaning (in the everyday sense; not in some 
> formal logic that everyday speech doesn’t use and that would need to be 
> invented) without needing as input who said it.  A sentence in a “subjective” 
> register is one that cannot be parsed to a meaning without reference to some 
> speaker (in whatever representation; maybe more or less explicit), which must 
> thus be supplied._Why_ we use those registers, why we have been handed them 
> down from past speakers innumerable, and how our experienced lives reward or 
> discourage the adoption of such registers, looks to me like a question that 
> can to some degree (as good a degree as anything in semantics) be separated 
> or factored from the classification of the locutions.Eric
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