My shoot-from-hip judgement of Elno-the-Magnificent is that he hisself has done this. He came into the EV and Space Launch world at a time when a great deal of the tech was in place and all he had to do (understating) was reconfigure it boldly. As someone recently pointed out, he can launch 95 rockets which blow up to figure out how to get the 96th one to do very well what the other 95 were trying to do while NASA gets shut down for a year if they launch even a single rocket that blows up.... a different kind of technical debt?
Trump's moonshot vaccine development program was pretty much the same... the pieces were in place and he got to take credit for something which was "easy" (and then dismiss the need/value for vaccines out of the other side of his mouth) and is now about to raid the research budget for medicine in general (to give Elno and company tax breaks?).
The current inertia of renewables also gives him room to pull all support back, redirect it to more aggressive fossil fuel development and while destroying the biosphere (some more) gets even more bang for his buck because wind/solar/hydro/geo are all supporting a voracious energy demand which his fossil aggressiveness will cash in on (Jevons Paradox).
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Would be interesting to see a list of various categories of science funding per capita or per GDP for countries around the world. Situate the prospective US in this list. Will our society be like that of Kazakhstan? Or maybe like Uganda? Probably well below Uruguay or Argentina or Chile.Want a direct visual image that can be delivered, about the style of day-to-day life that the mob is requesting for itself.On Feb 7, 2025, at 22:34, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/02/new-nih-policy-will-slash-support-money-to-research-universities/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/02/white-house-budget-proposal-could-shatter-the-national-science-foundation/.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservFridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoomhttps://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&c=E,1,PMU_BJco7RtqXNczAwxmT2KkVXxnh2xpIB_9yqe8FF3K-Z-X1vzIdU98FKb6rpklOx3HrPmw-ekcrazXECq2Ocko9HioBleEWJDjXe7SrcgCJEBT_Q,,&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&c=E,1,PMU_BJco7RtqXNczAwxmT2KkVXxnh2xpIB_9yqe8FF3K-Z-X1vzIdU98FKb6rpklOx3HrPmw-ekcrazXECq2Ocko9HioBleEWJDjXe7SrcgCJEBT_Q,,&typo=1> to (un)subscribehttps://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,1Sq6_TO-4dbfZvM6yoppLgsSfNrPJCe3MpS5-JSVoP-6EMZN9_ka5XPHT7qOsuWlwILF38lM6672Tho9y8yi6UKbfCaOh_VBOnn99RbkO0dFDGG6&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,1Sq6_TO-4dbfZvM6yoppLgsSfNrPJCe3MpS5-JSVoP-6EMZN9_ka5XPHT7qOsuWlwILF38lM6672Tho9y8yi6UKbfCaOh_VBOnn99RbkO0dFDGG6&typo=1> FRIAM-COMIChttps://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,uPuALCJ_CqjNXZH9KzLwZmpIUz34wiQ1tELCmIBcgYTkJ12fAMu4sqw4RDTq9s4KHXYK2495Imyp_zOEPiiix-gGbT17fZd0WkdI96p_QIzqhHgiWMNO&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,uPuALCJ_CqjNXZH9KzLwZmpIUz34wiQ1tELCmIBcgYTkJ12fAMu4sqw4RDTq9s4KHXYK2495Imyp_zOEPiiix-gGbT17fZd0WkdI96p_QIzqhHgiWMNO&typo=1> archives: 5/2017 thru presenthttps://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&c=E,1,6XXvpqJJW35DK1js_088U1FUyPIvVgR2F43jb65AHBff5R1XTaaCrNGMlgxoCvBf_zJAbnysaL0q2DDTzoCZoGr_oyOx436QJan2RJYAESjVBQ,,&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&c=E,1,6XXvpqJJW35DK1js_088U1FUyPIvVgR2F43jb65AHBff5R1XTaaCrNGMlgxoCvBf_zJAbnysaL0q2DDTzoCZoGr_oyOx436QJan2RJYAESjVBQ,,&typo=1>1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoomhttps://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribehttp://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIChttp://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru presenthttps://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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