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On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 16:29 Pieter Steenekamp <piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > I asked MS Copilot and she gave the following answer: > > Me: > Please help clarify this for me? In an interview, Javier Milei, the > President of Argentina, made two seemingly contradictory claims: (a) 50,000 > public employees were laid off, and (b) not a single job was lost. How can > both statements be true? What actually happened in Argentina over the past > year? > > MS Copilot: > Javier Milei's statements might seem contradictory at first, but they can > be understood in the context of his broader economic policies and the > specific actions taken by his administration. > What Happened in Argentina > > 1. > > *Layoffs of Public Employees*: > - > > Javier Milei's administration laid off a significant number of > public employees. Reports indicate that around 50,000 state employees > were > laid off as part of his efforts to reduce government spending and > streamline the public sector2. This move was part of a broader > strategy to cut public spending and reduce the national deficit. > 2. > > *Economic Context*: > - > > Argentina has been facing severe economic challenges, including > high inflation and a struggling economy. Milei's administration has > implemented various austerity measures to address these issues, which > included reducing the number of public sector employees. > 3. > > *Private Sector Job Creation*: > - > > Despite the layoffs in the public sector, Milei's administration > has been focused on creating jobs in the private sector. The claim that > "not a single job was lost" likely refers to the overall employment > situation, where the administration aims to offset public sector job > losses > with private sector job creation. This approach is intended to stimulate > economic growth and reduce the burden on the state. > > Summary > > While the layoffs of public employees are a fact, the claim that "not a > single job was lost" can be interpreted as an assertion that the overall > employment situation has not worsened due to efforts to create jobs in the > private sector. This reflects Milei's broader economic strategy of reducing > government expenditure while promoting private sector growth. > > Does this help clarify the situation for you? > > References: > 1reason.com2buenosairesherald.com3www.batimes.com.ar > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 at 01:02, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote: > >> How can you have "laid off 50,000 public employees so far [...] while >> [...] not losing jobs."? Are public employees not working at jobs? Are >> jobs not lost if you destroy them on purpose? >> >> -- rec -- >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:05 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Axios may be on to something. MSNBC is more like therapy than news. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Pieter >>> Steenekamp <piet...@randcontrols.co.za> >>> *Date: *Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 8:57 AM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Javier Milei >>> >>> Claude deserves some applause for doing a solid job summarizing the >>> podcast — well done! The conclusion, "As with any extreme ideology, a >>> degree of skepticism is warranted until real-world evidence validates the >>> theories," seems pretty spot-on. It’s a good reminder that bold ideas often >>> need to prove themselves in the wild. >>> >>> I’m genuinely curious to see how things play out in the next year or so. >>> Let’s be honest, Argentina could really use a win when it comes to >>> improving things. Fingers crossed for fewer missteps and more meaningful >>> strides forward! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 at 18:03, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Nearly 2 hrs? No thanks. Here's Claude's summation, FWIW. >>> >>> -------------------- >>> Claim 1: Milei says he came to understand the ideas of freedom and >>> Austrian economics in 2013-2014 after reading works by Rothbard, Mises, >>> Hayek and others. This caused a "revolution" in his thinking. >>> >>> Claim 2: Milei describes himself as an anarcho-capitalist in principle, >>> but a minarchist in practice given real-world constraints. He wants to >>> minimize the state as much as possible. >>> >>> Claim 3: Upon taking office, Milei says Argentina had annual inflation >>> heading towards 17,000%, poverty near 50%, fiscal deficits of 15% of GDP, >>> and was on the brink of hyperinflation and economic collapse. >>> >>> Claim 4: Milei says his government achieved fiscal balance in its first >>> month, cut ministries by over half, laid off 50,000 public employees so >>> far, cut social plans, and reduced inflation from a 17,000% annual rate to >>> 2.4% in six months, all while avoiding price controls and not losing jobs. >>> >>> Claim 5: Milei's goal is to make Argentina the freest country in the >>> world through deregulation and free market reforms. He believes this will >>> dramatically increase GDP per capita. >>> >>> Claim 6: Milei is aligned geopolitically with the US and Israel, which >>> he sees as representing freedom and Western liberal democracy against >>> autocracy. He wants stronger trade ties with the US. >>> >>> Claim 7: Milei believes free market capitalism is the best system for >>> human cooperation and prosperity. He rejects the notion of market failures >>> and says neoclassical economics enables harmful government interventions. >>> >>> In summary, Milei makes bold claims about rapidly improving Argentina's >>> economy through free market policies. More data over time is needed to >>> fully assess the results. His broader philosophical arguments express >>> common libertarian/anarcho-capitalist views, which are influential in some >>> circles but rejected by many mainstream economists and experts. As with any >>> extreme ideology, a degree of skepticism is warranted until real-world >>> evidence validates the theories. >>> >>> On 11/20/24 01:29, Pieter Steenekamp wrote: >>> > I’m not entirely convinced this group will be moonwalking with joy >>> over Javier Milei’s actions, but I must admit I’m intrigued by what he >>> claims to have achieved in Argentina over the past year, as he shared on >>> Lex Fridman’s podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk < >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk>. >>> >>> -- >>> ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ >>> >>> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. >>> / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >>> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. >>> / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / >> ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / > ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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